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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Kent => Topic started by: Simon G. on Monday 22 January 18 14:36 GMT (UK)
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Hi all. I'm having a bit of a problem is tracing a family through pretty much every record I can find, and hope that a new set of eyes might see something I've missed. As part of my one-name study in the Twyman name, I've come across the attached marriage entry on CityArk - from All Saints' in Frinsbury. The problem I'm having is that apart from this marriage entry, I'm not finding anything at all relating to Joseph Pluish (or indeed the Pluish surname at all) on either FindMyPast or Ancestry.
I've been hoping to find Joseph & Eliza together on a census return to find out what her place of birth & date is, as I'm at a loss as to who she is besides being the daughter of Thomas Twyman as noted on the marriage entry. Anyone able to find anything at all please? This is driving me a little bit loopy, if I'm honest.
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There's a smattering of Plewis around.
can't spot a good'un for you yet. Still rummaging
Births Jun 1843 (>99%)
PLUESS Charlotte Pluess Hoo 5 262
Births Jun 1844 (>99%)
Pluis Elizabeth Ann Hoo 5 279 DULLOW
Pluis Jane Hoo 5 279 TWYMAN
Births Sep 1844 (>99%)Pluis George Leonard Hoo 5 MISKIN
Births Sep 1845 Pluis Frances Hoo 5 274 TWYMAN
Births Dec 1845 (>99%)
Pluis George Alfred Hoo 5 280 Scan available - click to view
Births Dec 1846 Pluis Harriet Hoo 5 306 MISKIN
Births Jun 1848 PLUEIS Sarah Ann Hoo 5 300 DULLOW
Births Jun 1849 Plewis James Edward Hoo 5 301 MISKIN
Births Dec 1850 Plueis Eliza Hoo 5 304 DULLOW
Births Mar 1851 Plewis Mary Ann Hoo 5 332 MMN MISKIN
Births Jun 1853 PLEWIS Joseph Hoo 2a 249 MISKIN
Births Sep 1853 (>99%)
PLEWIS John Thomas Hoo 2a 250
Births Jun 1857 (>99%)
Plewis Eleanor Hoo 2a 274
Plewis Ellen Hoo 2a 274
Births Sep 1859 (>99%)
Plewis Amelia Hoo 2a 325
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There is a baptism on Findmypast of a Joseph PLUIS at Allhallows Kent 12 December 1819 father Joseph, mother Anne. May be a possibility.
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I wonder if this is Frances PLUIS:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGLD-4FQ
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1871 Eliza PLEWIS age 47 widow servant in Maidstone.
RG10/939/38/12.
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I think the Frances 1851 looks correct.
There is a 1865 marriage Hoo district for Frances E Plewis
Jane & eliza in 1851? https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGLD-K48
Makes 1871 "wrong" age, so possibly NOT nee Twyman in that census
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The ages vary, not unusual in domestic servants, but I think it is the same Eliza a servant widow aged 32 in 1851 in Maidstone.
HO107/1616/421/20.
The GRO has a death of a Joseph PLURIS aged 27 Dec qtr vol 5 page 227 Hoo Union. Thus would account for non appearances in the census.
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The GRO has a death of a Joseph PLURIS aged 27 Dec qtr vol 5 page 227 Hoo Union. Thus would account for non appearances in the census.
NO YEAR GIVEN
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Many thanks everyone. :) Must confess that I hadn't considered that it might be spelled as Plewis. I've come across an Eliza Plewis subsequently on 1871, 1881 and 1891 living in Senacre House in Otham, and wonder if this is the lady I'm after - she's down as a widowed housekeeper born in Selling in all three returns. Ref numbers are as follows if anyone wants to look. :)
1871: RG10/939 38/12
1881: RG11/926 34/2
1891: RG12/685 93/3
What I find interesting are the two 1851 returns that have been mentioned in the thread (many thanks for those :) ) as in both cases the children are noted as born in Kent Stoke. Not sure of the geography of that part of Kent (I was a Maidstone lad myself before we moved), but believe that's near Hoo? If that is indeed her it's interesting, as while it does contradict the marriage entry (where father is given as Thomas, rather than Timothy as the census suggests) it would be convenient - partly as I do know the Timothy Twyman there (he was the husband, if I remember correct, of Frances Saven/Savin, and did flit around Selling and Whitstable). I'll have to check in my file when I get home from work about if I know of a daughter Eliza for him.
Thanks again all for all your help and work. It really is appreciated. :)
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The GRO has a death of a Joseph PLURIS aged 27 Dec qtr vol 5 page 227 Hoo Union. Thus would account for non appearances in the census.
NO YEAR GIVEN
Sorry death was in 1847.
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As regards the spelling of the name, they both made their X on the marriage entry, so would probably not have known if the spelling was right wrong, this would account for many variations.