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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Carlow => Topic started by: Charlie J on Thursday 25 January 18 18:24 GMT (UK)
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Looking for some help in locating a house called Laurel Lodge in or around Bagenalstown in the 1850s. I have located obituaries for both my GGG Grandparents John D1858 & Mary Jones D1860 as living in this house. They lived all or most of their married life in Baltinglass, Co Wicklow up to the Griffins Valuation. So they only moved here a short time before they died. One of their Daughters was married to Ashmores of Corries House. Could it be near this address. It's a common name for a house so may not be easy to locate but any help is greatly appreciated.
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You have no townland?
Do you know where they were buried?
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No townland. Both obituaries just said Laurel Lodge Bagenalstown and both are buried in Hacketstown, Co Carlow. The same Obituaries gave their previous full Baltinglass Address. So I know they are my ancestors.
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Just looking at map....see some but just named Lodge!!
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I'm getting the same result, the Lodge hallmark posted and another near the Corn Mill which later is called Eastwood and the building beside the corn mill becomes The Lodge.
http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V2,669747,661746,11,8
I had a look around the countryside but I couldn't see it.
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I looked up the OS maps too but no luck. Possibly needs some local knowledge to identify the house if it even still exists.
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The Irish Times, 4 May 1875, advertised the the sale of the interest in the lease of Laurel Lodge -
"a very compact slated cottage residence with 6 Irish acres of land .... The house, which is beautifully situated an English mile from Carlow ...".
Almost all the references in the newspapers refer to the Fitzmaurice family
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There's a Fitzmaurice family at Dunleckney on the 1911 Census.
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The Irish Times, 4 May 1875, advertised the the sale of the interest in the lease of Laurel Lodge -
"a very compact slated cottage residence with 6 Irish acres of land .... The house, which is beautifully situated an English mile from Carlow ...".
Almost all the references in the newspapers refer to the Fitzmaurice family
I think that the Advertisment is for a different house, which happens to share name. English mile from Carlow would not have Bagnelstown address
Modern name for Bagnelstown is Muine Bheag, most locals still call it Bagnelstown.
JFCH
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McKennys Lane ?
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01lew/
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It doesn't help that John Jones is such a common name and with no middle name we are aware of. Dathai I presume those are records of ownership rather than residency. The last record we have of John in Baltinglass is for February 1851 when someone tried to shoot him. He survived and the assassin was transported to Aus. We then have a litter written by Mary in 1856 giving the address as Laurel Lodge but no further location information.
I also recall seeing a deed that Mary acquired a property in or about 1824 from Newtons of Dunleckney Manor. I don't know if it's the same property.I think I have a copy of the deed number but I didn't get a copy of the deed so this may be a red herring.
I can't even say Mary was from the area as they were married in Kilkenny.
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While searching online newspapers I found an article dated 27 November 1858 stating that John Jones was traveling from Hacketstown to his house in Rathduff, Bagenalstown. When nearing his home his horse stumbled and he was thrown from his Gig. He died from his injuries.
We had never known this before and it's quite strange.
Anyway, Rathduff is a townland just north of Dunceckney Manor and the house isn't named on the old OS maps.
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Irish Times 1996 , Preserving Laurel Lodge
Laurel Lodge at Ballyknockan wicklow
http://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/letters/preserving-laurel-lodge-1.50829
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family search
http://www.familysearch.org
Dorinda Jones (daughter of John) married James Ashmore 12.10.1854 at Baltinglass
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Hi Charlie J,
Sent you a PM