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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (West Riding) => Topic started by: bykerlads on Friday 26 January 18 21:50 GMT (UK)
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A new one for me. And I thought I knew my Holme Valley locations quite well...
Anyone know where Wheesbrook or Wheelbrook might be/ have been?
The place name appears in 1800 on baptism record at Lane Chapel, Holmfirth.
Baptism of my gggrtgrandmother Ruth Collier, daughter of Joseph and Hannah.
Ruth eventually married into the Wimpenny clan of Burnlee and lived to the astoundingly old age of 96!!
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Hi maybe just a coincedence but their is a Wheelsbrook Services ( Auto Parts ) 13-17 Hollowgate, Holmfirth HD9 2DG?
Keyboard86
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Just can't find any other references to the name or similar.
The place was in the Almondbury parish area, therefore on the Upperthong side of the river Holme.
Would be useful if the Collier parents were in the 1841 census, but there is no trace.
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Wheels Brook is marked on the present 1:25000 Dark Peak map. It would appear to have been a farm with some associated.
Take A635 west out of Holmfirth and it's on the right just after you cross Green Gate late going south and Thick Hollins Road going north. It's about Ikm from the Peak National Park boundary.
I've got the map on my lap as I'm typing this, hope it helps.
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Thanks, Gibel.
Just what I was looking for. Keep coming across the names of small hamlets, farms, groups of dwellings.
Browsing the beautifully written records for Lane Chapel in the 1790's, there seem to have been a small number of families living at Wheelsbrook at that time: Colliers, Shaws, Brooks.
The Collier name seem to have disappeared from the area by the early 1800's, apart from my Ann who became a Wimpenny. What would be really interesting would be to find any other descendents of Joseph and Hannah Collier, in order to see if "blindness" was recorded for any of them on censuses. ( Ruth, her daughter Ann, my grandmother and mother all lived to very old age but had sight problems, easily treated in modern times, of course)
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::) Was it Ruth or Ann who married into the Wimpenny family, as next door in 1841 is a Hannah Collier 80 occ Independent Census ref HO107/1274/ 15/26 / 12?
Keyboard86
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Thanks, keyboard.
This Hannah Collier is indeed Ruth's widowed mother, living next door, having moved down to Burnlee from Wheelbrook up on the tops.
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Hello. I'm a distant relative of Ruth Wimpenny mentioned in this group and was hoping someone may know the exact location of the Family Vault at Lane Chapel Burial Ground mentioned in her Obituary. Thank you.
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GarryBB, have just seen your post in ref an old post of mine.
I don't know anything about the family grave at Lane Chapel but I do have the impression from other posts on rootschat that there are some problems about access to the cemetery there.
You mention an obituary for Ruth Wimpenny. Could I ask where you found the obituary? I 'd be interested to see it if possible. Thanks in advance.
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Wheels Brook is marked on the present 1:25000 Dark Peak map. It would appear to have been a farm with some associated.
See https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=17&lat=53.57178&lon=-1.83120&layers=168&right=BingHyb now called Ford Court.
Google Street View https://goo.gl/maps/ZpWmsTXnPQ5Yosxo9
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Hello Bykerlads. Holmfirth Express 01/08/1896 a copy of which can be found in Huddersfield Library. It's a news report with the heading BURNLEE and starts SUDDEN DEATH OF AN OLD INHABITANT - REMARKABLE GENEALOGY. It's reporting on the death and burial, then goes on to mention her family.
I got into Lane Chapel Burial Ground recently using the key you can borrow from Holmfirth Library to open the top gate. They have recently tidied the graveyard up removing brambles. I also have a map of the graves provided by someone. All that and I still cannot find anything that looks like a Wimpenny family vault.
This was my last hope of finding someone who knew where it was.
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Thanks for this info, Garry.
I shall go and have a look at the report.
You will have noticed that our Ruth was 96 when she died. Quite an amazing age, especially in those days, but in fact she heads a long line of very long-lived females, including my own mother still going strong at 92. She is Ruth's 3xgreatgranddaughter.
As regards graves at Lane, I have a bit of a vague note of what looks like a ref to Ruth's husband Joshua's grave: "josh dth in hudds examr, 1886 grv 16 G row Lane". Don't know how much sense this makes, or where I got the info or even if it is accurate. But you may find it useful?
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The find a grave web site has a lot of photos of gravestones at Lane URC Upper Graveyard with some Wimpenny ones.
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PS and Correction to previous post:
my mother, 92, is 2 x grtgranddaughter of Ruth, not 3x.
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Thanks Gibel and bykerlads.
Have managed to find documentation that confirms it's G16, so is less a Vault and more a deep grave. Have seen a photo of that plot and no headstone unfortunately.
I am descendent from Ruth via her daughter Ann and then another Ruth Wimpenny below that along with quite a few generations below that.
Cheers
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Glad you managed to locate the grave.
My ancestor was Eliza, daughter of Ruth W and older sister of Ruth, which is where our 2 branches divide.
We have deduced that Eliza's illegitimate daughter Hosetta ( my grtgrandmother)'s unnamed father was probably Spanish. So, if by any remote chance you come across a spaniard called Jose during your researches, do please let me know! Or any reason why Eliza ( Wimpenny or Berry) might have been in Bradford in thè mid1860's.
By the way, there was a strong tendency to eyesight problems in old age amongst Ruth's decendents :"blind" category on censuses, up to and including my mother's cataracts. Any sign of this down through your branch?
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Doing my tree and Hosetta Wimpenny comes up. My ggf was James Mellor. Interested to know if the Hosetta mystery has been solved yet. In the meantime, I will continue to dig.
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Webbo, I have just seen your post about Hosetta Wimpenny.
We still have no info about her possibly Spanish father, but a recent update on my ancestry DNA indicates some Basque connections, so he might have been from that area of Spain.
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Thanks for that. Think I may do a dna and see if it throws up similar result. Cheers.