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Title: photograph out of the sepia mist? poss Elizabeth barlow
Post by: stevemiller on Saturday 27 January 18 10:09 GMT (UK)
Is anyone able to work their magic on this photo?
Title: Re: photograph out of the sepia mist? poss Elizabeth barlow
Post by: japeflakes on Saturday 27 January 18 11:21 GMT (UK)
A light touch to see what is there. Good ones will appear soon:
Title: Re: photograph out of the sepia mist? poss Elizabeth barlow
Post by: stevemiller on Saturday 27 January 18 12:04 GMT (UK)
Amazing - in the original, I always thought she was putting something in a bin - but it looks like a dog  :o
Title: Re: photograph out of the sepia mist? poss Elizabeth barlow
Post by: Trishanne on Saturday 27 January 18 12:40 GMT (UK)
One from me
Pat
Title: Re: photograph out of the sepia mist? poss Elizabeth barlow
Post by: Trishanne on Saturday 27 January 18 12:41 GMT (UK)
A close up of the lady with her dog
Pat
Title: Re: photograph out of the sepia mist? poss Elizabeth barlow
Post by: Treetotal on Saturday 27 January 18 14:40 GMT (UK)
Hi Steve...I don't think this is Elizabeth as this is around the same time or a little earlier than your other one with the two little girls.
Carol
Title: Re: photograph out of the sepia mist? poss Elizabeth barlow
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 27 January 18 15:05 GMT (UK)
I think it  looks more like Edmund's side of the family. When did Edmund's mother die?


Gadget


Title: Re: photograph out of the sepia mist? poss Elizabeth barlow
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 27 January 18 15:16 GMT (UK)
Just done a couple of snips for comparison.

Title: Re: photograph out of the sepia mist? poss Elizabeth barlow
Post by: Treetotal on Saturday 27 January 18 15:37 GMT (UK)
That looks promising  :D
Carol
Title: Re: photograph out of the sepia mist? poss Elizabeth barlow
Post by: stevemiller on Saturday 27 January 18 15:59 GMT (UK)
Thanks to Japeflakes and Pat for wonderful images.

For well over forty years I’ve thought the Lady in the Sepia Mist was an older version of Elizabeth Barlow (at a different house) http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=786481.0

Now Carol and Gadget have opened a can of worms !

I’ve attached the backs.
The top one is the reverse of the photo on this thread
The bottom one is the reverse of Elizabeth, Gladys and Dorothy Barlow in 1909/10

These ARE from the same time, are they not?  The same “M46” and pencilled mark in the stamp box ?

In 1911 Elizabeth’s mother [Hannah Maria Crook nee Coxhead] was living next door to Elizabeth and the girls at 2 St Johns View, Newbury.

Given that the house is different, could this be Hannah Barlow, nee Carter/Cook (1839- Feb 1912).

As Gadget has hinted – she was the mother of Edmund Barlow (husband and father of the lasses on the other thread).

I need a strong cuppa !
Title: Re: photograph out of the sepia mist? poss Elizabeth barlow
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 27 January 18 16:02 GMT (UK)
Just been doing some research on the censuses 1871 -> and I think it ties in with Steve:

I think the lady might be Hannah Barlow, b.c. 1839, living Pelican Terrace, Speenhamland, Newbury in 1901.

Gadget

added - not the same house as Elizabeth and Edmund's so maybe she moved just before the 1911, which would fix the dates  :)
Title: Re: photograph out of the sepia mist? poss Elizabeth barlow
Post by: Treetotal on Saturday 27 January 18 16:09 GMT (UK)
I gave it a clean for you.
Carol
Title: Re: photograph out of the sepia mist? poss Elizabeth barlow
Post by: Treetotal on Saturday 27 January 18 16:17 GMT (UK)
Just been doing some research on the censuses 1871 -> and I think it ties in with Steve:

I think the lady might be Hannah Barlow, b.c. 1839, living Pelican Terrace, Speenhamland, Newbury in 1901.

Gadget

added - not the same house as Elizabeth and Edmund's so maybe she moved just before the 1911, which would fix the dates  :)

Yes I would agree...the age seems to fit too.

Carol
Title: Re: photograph out of the sepia mist? poss Elizabeth barlow
Post by: stevemiller on Saturday 27 January 18 16:24 GMT (UK)
Elisha and Hannah Barlow lived at 5 Pelican Terrace, Newbury in 1901 and 1911.

Hannah was buried in Feb 1912 with address as Pelican Terrace (no house number); Elisha died in May 1916 at 5 Pelican Terrace.

Is she standing outside the fifth doorway?

Are the backs of the cards proof that this is the same date?

I've posted on the Berkshire Board to see if anyone recognises the row.
Title: Re: photograph out of the sepia mist? poss Elizabeth barlow
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 27 January 18 17:26 GMT (UK)
You've had some lovely restores from Carol and the others, Steve, so I've taken the liberty of cropping the image and adding some texture.


Gadget
Title: Re: photograph out of the sepia mist? poss Elizabeth barlow
Post by: stevemiller on Saturday 27 January 18 17:34 GMT (UK)
Thank you Gadget - that is lovely
Title: Re: photograph out of the sepia mist? poss Elizabeth barlow
Post by: Treetotal on Saturday 27 January 18 17:57 GMT (UK)
 I hope I didn't spend an hour and a half on your damaged photo for nothing ??? ??? ???

Carol
Title: Re: photograph out of the sepia mist? poss Elizabeth barlow
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 27 January 18 18:04 GMT (UK)
It's lovely, Carol. I think Steve must have got a bit excited finding that this might be Hannah Barlow. I'm sure he didn't miss thanking you deliberately  :)

Gadget
Title: Re: photograph out of the sepia mist? poss Elizabeth barlow
Post by: stevemiller on Saturday 27 January 18 18:17 GMT (UK)
Carol - please accept my sincere apologies - I certainly didn't mean to miss you out.

I'm very grateful for all the help I've received over the past few days. It's been quite a week, and I suspect some more surprises will come in the near future.
Title: Re: photograph out of the sepia mist? poss Elizabeth barlow
Post by: Treetotal on Saturday 27 January 18 22:49 GMT (UK)
Aw not to worry Steve...as Gadget said....it got lost in the excitement of the moment  :)
Carol
Title: Re: photograph out of the sepia mist? poss Elizabeth barlow
Post by: stevemiller on Saturday 10 February 18 09:04 GMT (UK)
Yesterday I received a photo of the row, taken in the 1960's, from West Berkshire Museum.
I can't post it because of copyright, but it is Pelican Terrace, Newbury.

This means that the lady is my 2xgreat grandmother Hannah Barlow nee Carter Cook (1839-1912), and not (as I had assumed for over 40 years) her daughter-in-law Elizabeth Barlow nee Coxhead (1867-1938) taken in the 1930's.

A massive thank you to all the restorers who blew the mist away, and especially to Carol and Gadget who spotted the proper date and person.

Title: Re: photograph out of the sepia mist? poss Elizabeth barlow
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 10 February 18 09:30 GMT (UK)
Ye of little faith  ;D

I was convinced as soon as I saw that she and her son, Edmund, had similar features and then I checked the censuses.

Just been doing some research on the censuses 1871 -> and I think it ties in with Steve:

I think the lady might be Hannah Barlow, b.c. 1839, living Pelican Terrace, Speenhamland, Newbury in 1901.

Gadget

Title: Re: photograph out of the sepia mist? poss Elizabeth barlow
Post by: stevemiller on Saturday 10 February 18 09:58 GMT (UK)
Gadget - I've told you before I can't do this recognition thing - it's probably got a posh syndrome name  :)

But I really enjoy matching the photos with the documentary evidence - That's what makes this such a great board.



Title: Re: photograph out of the sepia mist? poss Elizabeth barlow
Post by: Treetotal on Saturday 10 February 18 10:07 GMT (UK)
It was only that I had just restored Elizabeth's photo that I realised they couldn't be the same woman. Gadget played a blinder by matching her up with family in the group photo...we get there in the end  ;D ;D
Carol
Title: Re: photograph out of the sepia mist? poss Elizabeth barlow
Post by: Flattybasher9 on Saturday 10 February 18 11:45 GMT (UK)
I was faffin with this one


Malky
Title: Re: photograph out of the sepia mist? poss Elizabeth barlow
Post by: stevemiller on Saturday 10 February 18 11:54 GMT (UK)
Thanks Malky - I particularly like what you've done with the reflection in the window.

When you think of the condition of my original post, it just shows what can be achieved - bringing the past alive, indeed.