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Title: James HYLAND, Born C1836, Birmingham
Post by: BAC3 on Saturday 27 January 18 16:49 GMT (UK)

Hello,

I am trying to find details of James HYLAND after March 1858.   I am fairly conversant with his general profile up to that point and although he had been in prison he does not appear to have re-offended after March 1858.  His father was John HYLAND, a Gas Fitter, who at one stage earlier in the 1850's lived in Princes Street, Birmingham.

Any information would be welcome.

Tony

Title: Re: James HYLAND, Born C1836, Birmingham
Post by: emeltom on Saturday 27 January 18 18:51 GMT (UK)

Can you give any further info about him such as when and where he was Born? Do you have him on any of the early Censuses?

Emeltom

Title: Re: James HYLAND, Born C1836, Birmingham
Post by: emeltom on Saturday 27 January 18 18:52 GMT (UK)

Sorry - just realised that you gave his birth etc in the title.

Emeltom

Title: Re: James HYLAND, Born C1836, Birmingham
Post by: chempat on Sunday 28 January 18 22:58 GMT (UK)

There are various James Hylands travelling to America or Australia, but they do appear to be Irish.

Title: Re: James HYLAND, Born C1836, Birmingham
Post by: Milliepede on Tuesday 30 January 18 12:22 GMT (UK)

I wonder if he changed his name when he came out of prison for a fresh start. 

Have you tried starting at the end and looking for any likely deaths? 

Title: Re: James HYLAND, Born C1836, Birmingham
Post by: Milliepede on Tuesday 30 January 18 12:29 GMT (UK)

Just quickly there is a marriage James Hyland father John 8 Sep 1873 - can't see full details.

Spouse Ellen Dolphin.

Title: Re: James HYLAND, Born C1836, Birmingham
Post by: BAC3 on Tuesday 30 January 18 13:07 GMT (UK)

Thanks Milliepede......Looks possible........I'll see if I can trace the details.

Title: Re: James HYLAND, Born C1836, Birmingham
Post by: Milliepede on Tuesday 30 January 18 15:31 GMT (UK)

Sorry had to rush off to dinner.

Ellen single father James

James widowed father John

Marriage at St James Wolverhampton

Only a transcription but will see if can find on census just in case he is yours.

Title: Re: James HYLAND, Born C1836, Birmingham
Post by: BAC3 on Tuesday 30 January 18 15:39 GMT (UK)

Hello Milliepede,

I managed to find fuller details of the marriage..........sadly, it may be the wrong person, simply because his father's occupation is given as Stonemason whereas he was originally a Gas Fitter.

See:   FamilySearch:   https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QLQ8-LVPK

Title: Re: James HYLAND, Born C1836, Birmingham
Post by: Milliepede on Tuesday 30 January 18 15:40 GMT (UK)

More details from the marriage would help as having trouble finding them after :-\

There is an Ellen age 12 in 1861 with a father James who is a shoemaker so would help to confirm his occupation.  They are living in the village Defford Worcestershire.  She would be marriage age in 1873. 

As chempat says there are other James Hylands but of Irish descent.