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General => Armed Forces => World War One => Topic started by: warpo on Tuesday 30 January 18 01:02 GMT (UK)
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Private Arthur Laughton: 13842 7th Lincolnshire Regiment.
I have searched for what seems like forever for service records but all I can find is included in the UK, WWI Service Medal and Award Rolls, 1914-1920. Document for this Private in the Roll was dated 1st July 1920 in Lichfield.
Can anyone advise me where I could go online to find his service records as I am in no position to travel to Kew?
I have full access to Ancestry and FindMyPast. Did wonder about Forces Of War, but not sure if they only provide the same documents that could be found on Ancestry or FindMyPast.
Many thanks in advance.
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Warpo, unfortunately around 60% of World War 1 records were destroyed during the blitz in WW2, so if you can't find him on Ancestry or FindMyPast then it is most likely they no longer exist. You need to gather what you can from the medal cards. If he stayed in the army after 1920 then his records may still be with MOD.
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Thanks for your reply, I read that if a soldier remained in the army after the war then they would have taken their service records with them, so as like you say, the documents would still be with the MOD. But with information from his son, he left the Army in 1920.
I've been browsing on the National Archives website, but it's a headache navigating to do even a search.
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Oh I know that feeling. If he left in 1920 I would presume his records were lost.
Here in Australia we can get some access to Kew through our library. It may be worthwhile checking if you can do the same if you find something, but have to pay. From my experience though much of what you find online is available on pay sites. A word of warning, there have been many complaints on here about forces records.
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According to his 1915 Star Roll he was discharged to Class Z reserves (recalled if armistice failed) 16/3/19 so unfortunately I think they are burned.
War diary will tell you his whereabouts as looked like he served throughout with 7th Batt.
Date on Rolls are for issue of campaign medals.
Ady
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all I can find is included in the UK, WWI Service Medal and Award Rolls, 1914-1920
There's a medal index card for him as well which shows that he disembarked in France on 11 August 1915.
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The guide published on the National Archives site is worth reading to reinforce what others have advised - if it ain't on the pay sites you've looked at, it ain't at Kew.
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/british-army-soldiers-after-1913/
As Nanna52 has said, you can squeeze a little more out of his medal records, Ady and ShaunJ have given useful dates. The 7th Battalion Lincolns was raised in Lincoln in September 1914 and went to France in July 1915.
To ease your frustration, the war diary is easily found as you have Ancestry. Find the war diaries for France Belgium and Germany in the card catalogue. Enter 2007 (which is the essential part of the NA catalogue number) in the Keyword with no other detail and the diary will appear.
MaxD
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According to his 1915 Star Roll he was discharged to Class Z reserves (recalled if armistice failed) 16/3/19 so unfortunately I think they are burned.
War diary will tell you his whereabouts as looked like he served throughout with 7th Batt.
Date on Rolls are for issue of campaign medals.
Ady
Where would i view what you are seeing?
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Find the war diaries for France Belgium and Germany in the card catalogue. Enter 2007 (which is the essential part of the NA catalogue number) in the Keyword with no other detail and the diary will appear.
MaxD
Id found the war diaries but pressumed it just relates to their movements etc. Are there specific details on the soldiers included.
On another note, that you all fot helping so far.
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No, the diaries only mention individual soldiers in the most exceptional circumstances. Their use is indeed to follow where his battalion was and when.
He has three records to find on Ancestry. The one you have found that you mentioned at the beginning is the roll for the British War and Victory medals for the Lincolns. There is a similar roll under A Laughton for the 1914/1915 Star which Ady cited which gives his discharge date. There is also his own medal card which ShaunJ cited which gives the date of his arrival in (his case) France.
To find the medal rolls go to Military, Awards and Decorations of Honour, UK WW1 Service Medal and Award Rolls and search on Laughton (no initial) with 13842 in the keyword space, his name and both the rolls come up at the top. Do the same under British Army WW1 Medal Rolls Index Cards, he comes up at the top. Both the card and the roll you looked at tell us his battalion.
MaxD
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Would like to thank everybody that has tried to help me with this, I've certainly learned a little bit more.
On another note that may be relevant to this and I apologise if this should be a new thread, but has anyone had any experience with Fold 3 by Ancestry. It's claiming that there are 731 records for Arthur Laughton (obviously not all the guy im looking for) and didn't know if it is a subscription thats worth having when I already have full access to FindMyPast and Ancestry.