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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Derry (Londonderry) => Topic started by: Aynn on Thursday 01 February 18 17:23 GMT (UK)
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I am looking for information on Sarah Spier married to Jams Graham Sarah is said to be from Londonderry went to New Zealand where their daughter Jane (Jennie) was born approx. 1870
I know it is a longshot, hopefully I can get a lead to where to go .
Thank you Aynn
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#you would be using same site that your Ballams were on...
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp
Just put Surname in, Londonderry, tick Marriage and relevant time period
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These are districts for the County.... so may be under one of these.
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Marriage of JAMES GRAHAM
in 1868
Group Registration ID N/R
SR District/Reg Area Londonderry
Returns Year 1868
Returns Quarter 1
Returns Volume No 17
Returns Page No 190
Marriage of SARAH SPEER
in 1868
Group Registration ID N/R
SR District/Reg Area Londonderry
Returns Year 1868
Returns Quarter 1
Returns Volume No 17
Returns Page No 190
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A photocopy of the cert is only €4.00
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/civil-records/help/i-want-to-get-a-copy-of-a-certificate-what-do-i-do
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Think you can view that cert on NIdirect for a few credits.
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I am looking for information on Sarah Spier married to Jams Graham Sarah is said to be from Londonderry went to New Zealand where their daughter Jane (Jennie) was born approx. 1870
I know it is a longshot, hopefully I can get a lead to where to go .
Thank you Aynn
Best to confirm exactly when daughter Jane was born in New Zealand as the following extracts are on Family Search-
Marriage of James Graham (father David) & Sarah Speer (father Nathaniel) on 3 Dec.1868 Londonderry registration district-
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGZ4-PY1
Birth of son William 24 Nov.1871
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FPYZ-SBY
Birth of son James 3 June 1873
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGH5-85J
The actual birth record for William gives the address as Rosemount in the City and father's occupation as carpenter-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1871/03274/2199798.pdf
James' birth shows same details-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1873/03197/2172400.pdf
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A Nathaniel Speer, who may or may not be Sarah's father, died 10 Dec.1864 aged 42 years. Death certificate not yet on Irish Genealogy site (will be available from GRONI, as the 1868 marriage, after registering and purchasing a few credits).
Newspaper death notice- (extract) in Derry Journal, 17 Dec.1864-
December 10, in this city, Mr. Nathaniel Speer, gardener of Gwyu’s [?] Institution, deeply regretted.
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I am looking for information on Sarah Spier married to Jams Graham Sarah is said to be from Londonderry went to New Zealand where their daughter Jane (Jennie) was born approx. 1870
I know it is a longshot, hopefully I can get a lead to where to go .
Thank you Aynn
Marriage of James Graham (father David) & Sarah Speer (father Nathaniel) on 3 Dec.1868 Londonderry registration district-
Would a Marriage in Dec 1868 be registered in First Quarter 1868?
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GRONI only show 1 marriage of a James Graham in Derry district from 1867-1869- that of James Graham on 3 Dec.1868 to bride Speer.
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GRONI only show 1 marriage of a James Graham in Derry district from 1867-1869- that of James Graham on 3 Dec.1868 to bride Speer.
Strange. Both can't be right.
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Would they be on FindMyPast??
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=786961.0
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The 1868 church marriage record for James Graham and Sarah Speer showed the fathers as David Graham, a blacksmith and Nathaniel Speer, a gardener.
Ninth April 1865, at Rosemount, Derry, David Lewis Speir was born, the son of Nathaniel Speir of Rosemount (Gardener) and Mary Anne Kearney:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1865/03573/2316755.pdf
Other possibilities I can see are Glendermott parish Church of Ireland baptisms for a Nathaniel and Mary Anne Spear/Spears/Speers of Altnagelvin, he was recorded as a gardener: Mary Ann Spear b. 3 November 1849; John Spears b. 28 March 1852; Nathaniel Spears b. 3 June 1854; James Speers b. 16 November 1860; William Spears b. 8 March 1863.
There is also a church marriage for a 20 year Robert Speer of Londonderry who marrried Eliza Wallace in St Columb's parish (Church of Ireland) on 2 June 1865, his father recorded as Nathaniel Speer, a gardener.