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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Cheshire Lookup Requests => Cheshire => England => Cheshire Completed Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Tracy Westall on Friday 02 February 18 10:47 GMT (UK)
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Hi
I was wondering if anybody could help me, with regards to a search of the parish register for St Mary's Church Cheadle.
I am looking for my Great,Great,Great Grandmother's name.
My searches have pointed me to a family link to the church.
My Great Great Grandmother Sarah Arden was born in around 1832 in Bosden Cheshire. So I am unable to search the BMD for her birth. She was married in the church to her husband Samuel Moss in 1851. Samuel is not related to me even though my Great Grandfather was named Walter Moss. Walter was born long after Samuel died.
In 1840 my Great,Great,Great Grandfather William Ardern Sarah's father married Sarah Adshed in the church. My research shows he was a widower, I am unable to find a death certificate for his previous wife who was Sarah's mother and my Great,Great,Great Grandmother.
So my thinking is that William might have married his first wife my Great,Great,Great Grandmother in the church possibly between the years of 1820-1830
Or I dont know what baptism records contain, but could my Great,Great,Great Grandmother's maiden name be recorded on them, if her daughter my Great,Great Grandmother Sarah Arden was baptised in the church.
I am unable to visit the church myself as I live in Australia. I would appreciate any advice.
Tracy
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Welcome to rootschat
Where and when was William born. Where do you have him on the 1841 census
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Welcome from me, too.
Is this William in 1841?
HO107/99/21 folio 13 page 19 - Chapel Street, Cheadle
William Ardern - 35 - Collier
Sarah - 20 - Silk Weaver
Mary - 15 - Silk Weaver
William - 8
Joel Adshead - 3
All born in county.
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I thought it may be that one but no daughter Sarah bn 1832 :-\
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I know and I can't seem to find Sarah in 1851. 1851 census taken on 30 March 1851, and Samuel and Sarah were married in March quarter 1851 :-\
Some kind soul has added a postem to the FreeBMD entry, giving the place of marriage as St Mary, Cheadle but doesn't give the date :-X Venue confirmed from CheshireBMD. FindMyPast have Cheshire records, but nothing for Cheadle :-X
1861 Census: RG9/2573 folio 63 page 18
Hatherton Lane, Norbury, Hazel Grove
William Ardern - 58 coal miner,born Bosden
Sarah Moss - 29, widow, Silk hand loom weaver, born Bosden
Ann Ardern - 14 - daughter
James Moss - 9, grandson, born Norbury
Elizabeth Moss - 5, granddaughter, born Norbury
There is death in 1854 for Samuel Moss, aged 24 - Stockport District, and two birth registrations in Stockport District - 1851 for James and 1854 for Elizabeth - both with mmn of Ardern.
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Thank you BumbleB that 1861 answers a few questions :)
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1871 Census: RG10/3667 folio 66 page 18
Button Lane, Norbury
Sarah Moss - 39, widow born Bosden
James - 19
Elizabeth 16
George - 9 (born 1861 no mmn)
Walter - 3 (born 1867 no mmn)
Sarah - 1 (born 1869 no mmn)
William Ardern - 78 - widower - father
Thomas Pegg - 14 - nephew
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Hi Ladies
Thanks for posting the information. I already have all the information in your posts. The Sarah in the census is my Great,Great Grandmother Williams daughter. The boy Walter is my Great Grandfather he along with two other children was born after Sarah's husband died and on their birth cert there no named father.
The person I am trying to find is Sarah's mother who was William's first wife. All the information on this lady will be before census and bmd records as she seems to have passed away before 1837 hence the question about the parish records.
Tracy
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Hi Tracy,
Firstly a very warm welcome to RootsChat!
There is a marriage on the Cheshire Parish Register Project website as follows:
The marriage took place in Cheadle.
4th July 1830
William Ardern to Hannah Edgerley by banns
Both made their mark with an X
Both of Cheadle Parish
Witnesses were: Henry Smith & John Ridings
I can find neither a baptism for Sarah Ardern or a burial for Hannah Ardern (Nee' Edgerley).
The above might well be the marriage for Sarah's parents.
Hope this helps anyway.
Kind regards
David
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Thankyou for the information I think this is a possibility.
Tracy
Ps could I ask how did you get access to record.
T
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There is a marriage on the Cheshire Parish Register Project website as follows:
The marriage took place in Cheadle.
4th July 1830
William Ardern to Hannah Edgerley by banns
Both made their mark with an X
Both of Cheadle Parish
Witnesses were: Henry Smith & John Ridings
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Hi Tracy. welcome to Rootschat! :)
Here is the Cheshire Parish Register Project - from the University of Liverpool.
http://cprdb.csc.liv.ac.uk/
You need to click on 'database' on the left to start a search for somebody.
It can be a bit tricky to follow if you haven't used it before.
Pick birth, death or marriage.
Pick your parish - in this case I picked Cheadle.
When you get to a page with all the names on, for say, Ardern births, you'll see a list of 'dates'.
If you put a '1' in front of them all, you can see they run from 1756 to 1839 on the first page.
So there's a William baptised 1810. Click on the button next to his name in the 'Full' column to get all the information about him.
Not necessarily your William Ardern of course - just to show you how it works. :)
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Hi Tracy, welcome to Rootschat from me as well.
I find when using the Cheshire parish website that putting in the first three or four letters of the surname will bring up all variations of that name.
I have an Arden ancestor, unfortunately not connected to yours, I found him transcribed on various records as Arden, Ardern, Arderne and even Hardern.
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Hi again,
I have found a burial record for a Hannah Ardern she was buried in Disley 18 April 1837.
She was 23 years of age so would have only been 18 when Sarah was born and 16 when she married William but it is a possibility.
As Disley is not far from Cheadle it might be worth keeping this one in mind.