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I'm trying to track down some information about my Nana.
Josephine(Josie) Kennedy was born in England on October 1st, I think 1935 and she had a twin sister.
She married my grandfather, Ian Greig MacFarlane and had 2 sons, Martin and Greig in New Westminster, BC.
I remember when she passed away my dad said they were going to spread some of her ashes in the Fraser River in New Westminster, and they were going to send some to England to be spread in a river she grew up near. I'm trying to find the names of her parents and sister but I haven't been able to find anything on ancestry! It's like she didn't exist until she married my grandfather. ???
Any help or tips would be greatly appreciated!
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Welcome to Rootschat
The only one born in 1935 is this one
Births Jun 1935
KENNEDY Josephine M mmn McGowan
Manchester N 8d 524
That doesn't fit with a 1st October birth though, and there were no other children with mother McGowan born then.
Did the twin survive and do you know her name (only tell us this if you know that she is no longer alive) ?
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I'm not sure of her twin sisters name, and she definitely survived. My mom remembers her going by a shortened name like my nana did.
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Are you sure about the 1st October, that would come under the December quarter on the birth registrations and I can't find any between 1930 and 1940 where two children had the same mother's maiden name.
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Can I check - did she marry Ian G MacFarlane in England or Canada?
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Can I check - did she marry Ian G MacFarlane in England or Canada?
He was born in New Westminster, BC so they would've married after she moved to Canada.
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Sorry for all the questions, but her and her twin's birth is proving difficult to find.
When did she come to BC and did she come alone?
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Are you sure about the 1st October, that would come under the December quarter on the birth registrations and I can't find any between 1930 and 1940 where two children had the same mother's maiden name.
My mom is pretty confident her birthday was Oct 1, as it was also the date I was supposed to be born. But something could be muffling her memory. Im pretty sure she passed away around 2003/2004, I know that I was in elementary school. I can't even find an obit or death record though which is making it incredibly hard to confirm dates.
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Sorry for all the questions, but her and her twin's birth is proving difficult to find.
When did she come to BC and did she come alone?
I'm waiting for confirmation from my uncle on this. I believe she came alone, my Dad never had any stories about her parents but had tons to say about his dads parents. I'm assuming he didn't see them much, if at all. My Dad was born in 1960, so she had to have come over before then.
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Is there any chance that you could get their marriage certificate as if that gives her father's name it might make it easier to find her birth here?
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Is there any chance that you could get their marriage certificate as if that gives her father's name it might make it easier to find her birth here?
Iv'e learned from my uncle that her fathers name was Martin, her mothers name was Mary and her twin sister was named Joan (maybe Joanna or something similar)
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Can I check - did she marry Ian G MacFarlane in England or Canada?
He was born in New Westminster, BC so they would've married after she moved to Canada.
Apparently I might be wrong about this. Her first name was actually Catherine and she went by her middle name Josephine.
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Welcome to Rootschat
The only one born in 1935 is this one
Births Jun 1935
KENNEDY Josephine M mmn McGowan
Manchester N 8d 524
That doesn't fit with a 1st October birth though, and there were no other children with mother McGowan born then.
Did the twin survive and do you know her name (only tell us this if you know that she is no longer alive) ?
So I was totally wrong about her first name to begin with. Her first name was Catherine but she went by Josephine. Her twin sister was named Joan.
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A possiblility
Marriage, March 1924 Liverpool 8b 167
Martin Kennedy (or Martin Kerr) + Mary J. Noon
Then Dec 1930 births in Liverpool
Kennedy mmn Noon
8b 58 Catherine J.
and
8b 59 Joan T.
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Free index to the 1939 Register has in Liverpool
Martin Kennedy, born 1895
living with
Mary (J) Kennedy
and 2 more people + 1 closed person
Further tinkering reveals
Mary (J) was born 1895
other two whose records are open are
Elizabeth Kennedy, born 1927, later name "Tuder"
Francis Kennedy, born 1935
GRO birth index shows Elizabeth and Francis birth registrations, mother Noon
We cannot do lookups in the 39 Register.
John
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A possiblility
Marriage, March 1924 Liverpool 8b 167
Martin Kennedy (or Martin Kerr) + Mary J. Noon
Then Dec 1930 births in Liverpool
Kennedy mmn Noon
8b 58 Catherine J.
and
8b 59 Joan T.
This has to be it. I just found a death record for Joan Teresa Proudfoot(her name after marriage) and it lists the birth date as October 1 1930. Im on the right track now!
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Free index to the 1939 Register has in Liverpool
Martin Kennedy, born 1895
living with
Mary (J) Kennedy
and 2 more people + 1 closed person
Further tinkering reveals
Mary (J) was born 1895
other two whose records are open are
Elizabeth Kennedy, born 1927, later name "Tuder"
Francis Kennedy, born 1935
GRO birth index shows Elizabeth and Francis birth registrations, mother Noon
We cannot do lookups in the 39 Register.
John
My dad mentioned something about "lots of siblings" but I only knew for sure about the twin sister.
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If you look on Freebmd there are 7 Kennedy births between 1925 and 1935 in Liverpool, with mother's maiden name Noon. I can't list them as they could be alive still.