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Title: Billy M Avery
Post by: EdCan on Tuesday 06 February 18 00:16 GMT (UK)
Need some help please in trying to track Billy.
 His was born 1918 Guildford and birth registered as Billy M Avery. The M probably is McClellan which was used for some of his siblings. Parents were Joseph McClellan Avery (1887-1936) and Ada Edmonds(1887-?). Nothing shows up using Billy and too many using William. There does not seem to be a death of the right age for a William 1918-40 so I thought maybe there is a military record but I did not see one.
Title: Re: Billy M Avery
Post by: solidrock on Tuesday 06 February 18 03:09 GMT (UK)
Are you sure he married Ada Edmonds?  There is also this marriage...

Joseph Mcclellan Avery  m  Martha Wood.     1906  Dorking    2a   359

You said his siblings also had McClellan in there name but most of the Avery births in the GRO for Guildford in the period 1906-1917 that have McClellan in the names have the mmn as Horton or Jupp.

The only births I can find with Edmonds are Ronald 1908, Jack 1910 and Eric 1912.

Title: Re: Billy M Avery
Post by: EdCan on Tuesday 06 February 18 03:17 GMT (UK)
According to freebmd mmn was Edmonds
Title: Re: Billy M Avery
Post by: solidrock on Tuesday 06 February 18 03:43 GMT (UK)
According to freebmd mmn was Edmonds

Name    Joseph Mcclellan Avery
Event Type    Marriage
Registration Quarter    Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year    1906
Registration District    Dorking
County    Surrey
Event Place    Dorking, Surrey, England
Volume    2A
Page    359
Line Number    153
 
Joseph Mcclellan Avery probably married one of the following people
Name    George Cheesman
Name    Martha Wood

AVERY    Joseph McClellan        Dorking    2a   359    
CHEESMAN    George         Dorking    2a   359    
EDMONDS    Ada         Dorking    2a   359    
WOOD    Martha         Dorking    2a   359   
Title: Re: Billy M Avery
Post by: EdCan on Tuesday 06 February 18 03:57 GMT (UK)
In 1911 Joseph and Ada were living in Guildford
Title: Re: Billy M Avery
Post by: solidrock on Tuesday 06 February 18 04:10 GMT (UK)
In 1911 Joseph and Ada were living in Guildford

That seems to be the right family with Jack and Ronald
Title: Re: Billy M Avery
Post by: solidrock on Tuesday 06 February 18 04:18 GMT (UK)
Could this be his death?

William Avery. Death 1920, age 2, Croydon, Surrey. 2A   402
Title: Re: Billy M Avery
Post by: EdCan on Tuesday 06 February 18 15:07 GMT (UK)
That is a possibility that I overlooked

Thanks
Title: Re: Billy M Avery
Post by: EdCan on Tuesday 20 February 18 15:37 GMT (UK)
Don't think that I am any further ahead.

William Avery of Guildford died 1 Mar 1920 at 76 Eridge Rd, Thornton Heath. Cause of death was bronchial pneumonia(no PM). reported by R W Wilson -occupier of 76 Eridge Rd.
Title: Re: Billy M Avery
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 20 February 18 15:40 GMT (UK)
His was born 1918 Guildford  ........so I thought maybe there is a military record but I did not see one.

Military records after 1920 are still with the MOD

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=651361.0
Title: Re: Billy M Avery
Post by: lizdb on Tuesday 20 February 18 15:41 GMT (UK)
Maybe he is still alive, celebrating his 100th birthday.
And if he didn't marry (or at least not in England or Wales) then we wont easily find any more about him.
Title: Re: Billy M Avery
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 20 February 18 16:00 GMT (UK)
Just posting link to 1911 with children Phyllis, Ronald & Jack
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW84-J8B
Title: Re: Billy M Avery
Post by: lizdb on Tuesday 20 February 18 16:09 GMT (UK)
Dad Joseph died 1936

Death Ap/MAy/Jun 1936 Surrey South West Ref 2a 468
Joseph M Avery age 49

Probate Index Entry
Joseph McClellan Avery of Langton, Old Palace Rd, Guildford died 29 May 1936 Administration to Ronald McCelland Avery omnibus driver and Eric Edmond Avery sign writer

Shame it was Admin not Probate - therefore no Will

Do we know who Eric Edmond Avery is? Do we want to?
Title: Re: Billy M Avery
Post by: lizdb on Tuesday 20 February 18 16:12 GMT (UK)
Another son

Birth
Jul/Aug/Sep 1912
Guildford
Eric E Avery
mmn Edmonds
Title: Re: Billy M Avery
Post by: EdCan on Tuesday 20 February 18 16:27 GMT (UK)
Eric born 18 Jun 1912 and died 18 Nov 1960 Middlesex hospital. He married 6 Feb 1937 to a Mary Coughlan

Ed
Title: Re: Billy M Avery
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 20 February 18 17:54 GMT (UK)
Don't think that I am any further ahead.

William Avery of Guildford died 1 Mar 1920 at 76 Eridge Rd, Thornton Heath. Cause of death was bronchial pneumonia(no PM). reported by R W Wilson -occupier of 76 Eridge Rd.

76 Eridge Road was Croydon Union Infirmary, later named Mayday Hospital
Title: Re: Billy M Avery
Post by: EdCan on Tuesday 20 February 18 23:07 GMT (UK)
Don't think that I am any further ahead.

William Avery of Guildford died 1 Mar 1920 at 76 Eridge Rd, Thornton Heath. Cause of death was bronchial pneumonia(no PM). reported by R W Wilson -occupier of 76 Eridge Rd.

76 Eridge Road was Croydon Union Infirmary, later named Mayday Hospital

Thanks rosie. Why would someone describe themself as an occupier of an infirmary? Was he also a patient?

Ed
Title: Re: Billy M Avery
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 21 February 18 07:28 GMT (UK)
1901 census - Infirmary, Mayday Row -Doctors residence
RG13/644 f36p10
Reginald W Wilson age 43 -Medical Superintendent Infirmary M.R.C.S    L.R.C.P.  Ed
plus his wife Mina & Children

Are you assuming that this death is for the 'Billy' that you are looking for.  :-\
Title: Re: Billy M Avery
Post by: EdCan on Wednesday 21 February 18 12:13 GMT (UK)
Unfortunately no
Title: Re: Billy M Avery
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 21 February 18 12:21 GMT (UK)

William Avery of Guildford died 1 Mar 1920 at 76 Eridge Rd, Thornton Heath. Cause of death was bronchial pneumonia(no PM). reported by R W Wilson -occupier of 76 Eridge Rd.

I can't see another birth that would fit that death as it says he was resident Guildford.   :-\
Title: Re: Billy M Avery
Post by: EdCan on Wednesday 21 February 18 13:08 GMT (UK)
I had a look also and there is a good chance that it is Billy M but how to prove it.
Title: Re: Billy M Avery
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 21 February 18 14:32 GMT (UK)
Wait for the 1921 census and see if he is living with the family  :-\ 
Title: Re: Billy M Avery
Post by: lizdb on Wednesday 21 February 18 15:18 GMT (UK)
Wait for the 1921 census and see if he is living with the family  :-\

If he is the one that died 1920 - then he wont be on 1921 census  :(

But I see what you mean - if your Billy IS with his family, then this death can be ruled out!
Title: Re: Billy M Avery
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 21 February 18 15:50 GMT (UK)
Yes that is what I meant.    ;D   ;D   

It should also, like the 1911 give numbers of children born of the marriage that are still living/ have died
Title: Re: Billy M Avery
Post by: EdCan on Wednesday 21 February 18 22:42 GMT (UK)
Only four years to go. Hope they were not missed

Ed
Title: Re: Billy M Avery
Post by: bluejoppo on Thursday 16 August 18 21:34 BST (UK)
Hi

Just wanted to say I am a great grandchild of Phyllis Mclellan Avery and curious to know the connection we may have.
Title: Re: Billy M Avery
Post by: EdCan on Friday 17 August 18 01:05 BST (UK)
Ada Edmonds was 2nd cousin 2x removed

Ed