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Title: de la Cour /Murphy 1804 - 1866
Post by: Sarah Howell on Tuesday 06 February 18 05:35 GMT (UK)
Greetings from New Zealand Everyone,
I have recently discovered from DNA testing that I am descended from Murphys from Ireland. I have also discovered that the earliest Murphy on my tree was originally known as Edmond (or Edmund) de la Cour and that his family were Huguenots who fled to Cork from France. Edmond (1804 - 1866) apparently changed his name to Murphy to help his family assimilate in Ireland. I have Edmond married to Jane de la Compt with a death date of 1866 but have not been able to verify this information. I understand that the family had strong Church of Ireland links.
Is there anyone reading this that is familiar with this family? I would love to know more about the Huguenot connection and the time when this family resided in Cork. (I have heard that there was a house sold in Cork under the name of de la Cour.)
(I believe I am descended from Edmond's son Michael Murphy (1833-1914) who was born in Dublin, married Alicia Dickson (1828 -1910) in Tasmania Australia, and emigrated to New Zealand where he died.
Thank you.
Title: Re: de la Cour /Murphy 1804 - 1866
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 06 February 18 07:40 GMT (UK)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1886/02597/1959305.pdf

father's address  America ??
Title: Re: de la Cour /Murphy 1804 - 1866
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 06 February 18 07:43 GMT (UK)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1887/06218/4779386.pdf


These were the only 2 on Civil Reg.  Too late for your dates!!
Title: Re: de la Cour /Murphy 1804 - 1866
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 06 February 18 07:48 GMT (UK)
I just searched this on https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp
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Title: Re: de la Cour /Murphy 1804 - 1866
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 06 February 18 07:51 GMT (UK)
Civil Reg  Birth, Marriage and Death results for delaCour

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Title: Re: de la Cour /Murphy 1804 - 1866
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 06 February 18 07:55 GMT (UK)
 Church  Baptism, Marriage and Burial results for Michael Murphy from 1832 to 1834
Area - DUBLIN (COI) ... he's not there!
Title: Re: de la Cour /Murphy 1804 - 1866
Post by: Sinann on Tuesday 06 February 18 08:16 GMT (UK)
A finding aid for Huguenot's recently released
http://www.irishgenealogynews.com/2018/02/rcb-library-releases-online-finding-aid.html
Title: Re: de la Cour /Murphy 1804 - 1866
Post by: Sarah Howell on Tuesday 06 February 18 08:22 GMT (UK)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1886/02597/1959305.pdf

father's address  America ??
Thanks for that. I am not aware of any American background.
Title: Re: de la Cour /Murphy 1804 - 1866
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 06 February 18 08:23 GMT (UK)
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/search/wr/results.jsp?document_type=&event_year_from=&event_year_to=&year_of_grant_from=&year_of_grant_to=&year_of_death_from=&year_of_death_to=&surname=Delacour&firstname=&location=&occupation=&deceased=&heir_or_executor=&search=Search&sort=&pageSize=&pager.offset=10
Title: Re: de la Cour /Murphy 1804 - 1866
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 06 February 18 08:51 GMT (UK)
Wills... Edmond Murphy

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01lhy/
Title: Re: de la Cour /Murphy 1804 - 1866
Post by: Sarah Howell on Tuesday 06 February 18 09:07 GMT (UK)
Civil Reg  Birth, Marriage and Death results for delaCour

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I appreciate your help hallmark. As you can see I am new to this forum. Sorry I don't recognise any of those names.
Title: Re: de la Cour /Murphy 1804 - 1866
Post by: Sarah Howell on Tuesday 06 February 18 09:13 GMT (UK)
Wills... Edmond Murphy

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01lhy/
None for 1866 or with "Jane" as a wife. :(
Title: Re: de la Cour /Murphy 1804 - 1866
Post by: Sarah Howell on Tuesday 06 February 18 09:15 GMT (UK)
A finding aid for Huguenot's recently released
http://www.irishgenealogynews.com/2018/02/rcb-library-releases-online-finding-aid.html
Thank you for that. Very interesting. :)
Title: Re: de la Cour /Murphy 1804 - 1866
Post by: Sarah Howell on Tuesday 06 February 18 09:24 GMT (UK)
Wills... Edmond Murphy

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01lhy/
Thanks again Hallmark. I am beginning to think that the info that I have must be incorrect.
Title: Re: de la Cour /Murphy 1804 - 1866
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 06 February 18 09:27 GMT (UK)
Civil Reg  Birth, Marriage and Death results for delaCour

Displaying results 1 - 63 of 63. http://www.rootschat.com/links/01lhx/
I appreciate your help hallmark. As you can see I am new to this forum. Sorry I don't recognise any of those names.

OK.... wasn't sure if you had other names or siblings!

Sometimes ones gets clues from other stuff!
Title: Re: de la Cour /Murphy 1804 - 1866
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 06 February 18 09:35 GMT (UK)
Maybe not yours but it names family unit...

Of French origin this family settled in county Cork in the second half of the 17th century. In 1680 Robert Delacour married Ellen, daughter of Philip Cross and their grandson, another Robert, married Dorcas Norcott in 1764. Their eldest son was Robert De La Cour of Beare Forest who by his wife, Mary Baggs, had three sons, Robert of Fairy Hill, James of Sunny Hill and Hugh who married Katherine Stawell of Crobeg as well as a daughter who married Captain William Henry Herrick of Shippool. Robert Delacour was among the principal lessors in the parishes of Ballinaboy and Dunderrow, barony of Kinalea, county Cork, at the time of Griffith's Valuation. In 1820 James Delacour married Harriet G. Lombard, daughter and co heiress of James Lombard of Lombardstown. In the 1870s James Delacour of Mallow owned 4,507 acres in county Cork. His brother Robert Delacour of Fairyhill owned a further 717 acres and James' son, Reverend Robert W. Delacour of London, owned 872 acres.

http://landedestates.nuigalway.ie/LandedEstates/jsp/family-show.jsp?id=2819
Title: Re: de la Cour /Murphy 1804 - 1866
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 06 February 18 09:36 GMT (UK)
Huguenot in need of hugs 
https://www.irishexaminer.com/property/huguenot-in-need-of-hugs-33623.html
Title: Re: de la Cour /Murphy 1804 - 1866
Post by: Sarah Howell on Tuesday 06 February 18 09:39 GMT (UK)
Civil Reg  Birth, Marriage and Death results for delaCour

Displaying results 1 - 63 of 63. http://www.rootschat.com/links/01lhx/
I appreciate your help hallmark. As you can see I am new to this forum. Sorry I don't recognise any of those names.

OK.... wasn't sure if you had other names or siblings!

Sometimes ones gets clues from other stuff!
The only additional info that I have (additional to that in my opening post) is that Edmund / Edmond Murphy may have been a Professor of Agriculture at Cork University. Once again I can't verify this story.
Title: Re: de la Cour /Murphy 1804 - 1866
Post by: Sarah Howell on Tuesday 06 February 18 09:42 GMT (UK)
Huguenot in need of hugs 
https://www.irishexaminer.com/property/huguenot-in-need-of-hugs-33623.html
I did find that a few weeks ago after doing a Google search. Shame there are no pictures and no forenames...
Title: Re: de la Cour /Murphy 1804 - 1866
Post by: Sarah Howell on Tuesday 06 February 18 09:44 GMT (UK)
Maybe not yours but it names family unit...

Of French origin this family settled in county Cork in the second half of the 17th century. In 1680 Robert Delacour married Ellen, daughter of Philip Cross and their grandson, another Robert, married Dorcas Norcott in 1764. Their eldest son was Robert De La Cour of Beare Forest who by his wife, Mary Baggs, had three sons, Robert of Fairy Hill, James of Sunny Hill and Hugh who married Katherine Stawell of Crobeg as well as a daughter who married Captain William Henry Herrick of Shippool. Robert Delacour was among the principal lessors in the parishes of Ballinaboy and Dunderrow, barony of Kinalea, county Cork, at the time of Griffith's Valuation. In 1820 James Delacour married Harriet G. Lombard, daughter and co heiress of James Lombard of Lombardstown. In the 1870s James Delacour of Mallow owned 4,507 acres in county Cork. His brother Robert Delacour of Fairyhill owned a further 717 acres and James' son, Reverend Robert W. Delacour of London, owned 872 acres.

http://landedestates.nuigalway.ie/LandedEstates/jsp/family-show.jsp?id=2819
Thank you for that. I will research those names.
Title: Re: de la Cour /Murphy 1804 - 1866
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 06 February 18 09:46 GMT (UK)
https://www.google.ie/search?q=de+la+cour+villa+cork+history&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b&gws_rd=cr&dcr=0&ei=_3V5WsbUNYSRgAbztpHYCQ#

From P.10...

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Title: Re: de la Cour /Murphy 1804 - 1866
Post by: Sarah Howell on Tuesday 06 February 18 09:47 GMT (UK)
Thanks again hallmark. I do appreciate the digging that you are doing. It is getting late at night here and I must go to bed.
Title: Re: de la Cour /Murphy 1804 - 1866
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 06 February 18 09:49 GMT (UK)
Huguenot in need of hugs 
https://www.irishexaminer.com/property/huguenot-in-need-of-hugs-33623.html
I did find that a few weeks ago after doing a Google search. Shame there are no pictures and no forenames...

Plenty of photos online.....

http://www.sherryfitz.ie/residential/for-sale/56470