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Research in Other Countries => Europe => Topic started by: Miranda on Wednesday 07 February 18 19:45 GMT (UK)
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Hi everyone.
Struggling to find my ancestor in Hannover, Lower Saxony. Ernest Klussman (spelling variants I'm certain). He was born about 1800 - 1805. I have no other detail of his life in Germany and would love to know when he came over and who with. He was in Ireland by the time his first child was born in 1836, Newbridgbe Ireland. I have no info of him there either. He moved about a bit between Ireland and the UK. Now struggling to dig up any more.
Can anyone please give me some tips? ;D
Thank you in advance.
Miranda
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Here´s an Ernst Klusman
born 1806
married 1854
Ernst Daniel Christoph Klusmann
Geschlecht: männlich
Alter zur Zeit der Heirat: 48
Art des Ereignisses: Heirat (Eheschließung)
Geburtsdatum: 29. Jan 1806
Heiratsdatum: 1854
Heiratsort: Hannover, Hannover, Preußen
Vater: Ernst Heinrich Philipp Klusmann
Mutter: Marie Sophie Vollmer
Ehepartner: Marie Sophie Dorothee Elisabeth Brandes
Kirchgemeinde wie angezeigt: Döhren
Seitennummer: 4;4
Quelle: Evangelisches Kirchenbuchamt Hannover
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Here´s an Ernst Klusman
born 1806
married 1854
Ernst Daniel Christoph Klusmann
Geschlecht: männlich
Alter zur Zeit der Heirat: 48
Art des Ereignisses: Heirat (Eheschließung)
Geburtsdatum: 29. Jan 1806
Heiratsdatum: 1854
Heiratsort: Hannover, Hannover, Preußen
Vater: Ernst Heinrich Philipp Klusmann
Mutter: Marie Sophie Vollmer
Ehepartner: Marie Sophie Dorothee Elisabeth Brandes
Kirchgemeinde wie angezeigt: Döhren
Seitennummer: 4;4
Quelle: Evangelisches Kirchenbuchamt Hannover
Thanks Dave
He was married to a Georgena. She was born in Scotland somewhere in 1812 ish. I don't think this is my Ernst.
It is a really hard task.
thanks
Miranda
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they are in St Marys Parish ,Lambeth Surrey at one stage
one record states they married at St Mary,Lambeth
Ernst Klussman born june qtr 1843 - baptised St Marys Lambeth - he is Ernest on www.freebmd.org.uk
looks like
Henry Klussman born 1846 Salford ,Manchester 1846 - but he is baptised St Marys ,Lambeth - a long way to go
Frederick Klussman not born England but baptised St Marys ,Lambeth - so probably born in Newbridge Ireland just before they moved to the UK ??
https://en.geneanet.org/fonds/individus/?country__0__=GBR&country__1__=&country__2__=&country__3__=&country__4__=&exact_day=&exact_month=&exact_year=&from=&go=1&ignore_each_patronyme=&ignore_each_prenom=&nom=klussman&page=1&place__0__=&place__1__=&place__2__=&place__3__=&place__4__=&prenom=&prenom_operateur=or®ion__0__=ENG®ion__1__=®ion__2__=®ion__3__=®ion__4__=&size=10&subregion__0__=&subregion__1__=&subregion__2__=&subregion__3__=&subregion__4__=&to=&type_periode=between&zonegeo__0__=England%2C+United+Kingdom&zonegeo__1__=&zonegeo__2__=&zonegeo__3__=&zonegeo__4__=
Have a look and see if anything means something to you
good luck
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Here is a nice record for you
Other information in the record of William Ayley, Jr. and Dorette Anne Klussmann
from England Marriages, 1538–1973
Name William Ayley, Jr.
Spouse's Name Dorette Anne Klussmann
Event Date 22 Oct 1863
Event Place St. Mary'S, Lambeth, Surrey, England
Father's Name William Ayley
Spouse's Father's Name Ernest Klussman
same church as baptisms - the only puzzle I have is the Newbridge baptism - it looks to me like Ernest and Georgina Married in St Marys Lambeth - went to Ireland - had 2 children and then came back to Lambeth ....do you know his occupation ??
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I am really enjoying this - another daughters marriage - probably St Mary ,Lambeth
Name William Chambers
Event Type Marriage
Event Date 01 Sep 1863
Event Place Lambeth, Surrey, England, United Kingdom
Marital Status Single
Father's Name William Chambers
Spouse's Name Adelaide Klussmann
Spouse's Gender Female
Spouse's Marital Status Single
Spouse's Father's Name Ernest Klussmann
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bingo -2 children not born Newbridge - but St Catherines ,Dublin
1861 census - St Mary ,Lambeth
Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
Earnest Klussmann Head M 54 Hanover,
Georgina Klussmann Wife F 49 Edinburgh,
Henry Klussmann Son M 24 St Catherines Dublin,
Earnest Klussmann Son M 16 St Catherines Dublin,
Frederick Klussmann Son M 14 Ireland
so Georgina is Edinburgh 1811/12 - and Ernest / Ernst / Earnest is Hannover 1806/7
ADDED just noticed - there was only 7 weeks between his 2 daughters marriages - must have cost him a fortune .lol
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Although Davecapps was the wrong Ernst - it looks like it is the RIGHT spelling for the surname
no results in Hannover for Klussman / Kluzzman / Klusman / Kluzman
but
Klusmann has 10 results -
St Peter , Dohren ,Hannover , has 3
6 are in Martfield, DIEPHOLZ ,Hannover ,Prussia
1 in Nattrup-Hagen ,Hannover
an example of a tree from Diepholz
https://gw.geneanet.org/madsteinke?n=klusmann&oc=&p=johann+albert+christoph
Natrup Hagen record died in Natrup but was born Osnabruck
https://gw.geneanet.org/jscholte?n=klusmann&oc=&p=johann+friedrich
the 1802 birth of Heinrich Klusmann - he has 2 sisters - one named Adelheld - Adelaide in English
Ernest /Ernst born 1806 /7 around same timeframe has a daughter he names Adelaide
possible connection ?
there is this site named as Sources
www.wiewaswie.nl
nl looks like a Netherlands site ?...anyway I will post and see if the link comes up
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It looks like the familytree Sources given was from a Dutch Klusmann whose ancestor came from Hannover - the same scenario as yourself
there are 5 pages of Klusmann on that Nethrlands link = 85 Klusmann RECORDS
https://www.wiewaswie.nl/nl/zoeken/