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Title: John Urry
Post by: Lizzy Drippin on Thursday 08 February 18 10:09 GMT (UK)
My 3rd great grandmother is Jane Urry I have found a baptism record for her 1809 Godshill Isle of Wight. I think her parents are John Urry and Elizabeth Meader married 1798. I can find a birth for Elizabeth, but not John, can anyone help please?
Lizzy Dripping.
Title: Re: John Urry
Post by: lizdb on Thursday 08 February 18 12:16 GMT (UK)
Have you found a burial for him, to get an age, so you know approx. when he may have been born?

You don't seem sure of the marriage - maybe better to firm that up before going back, in case you are following the wrong person? 
Title: Re: John Urry
Post by: trish1120 on Thursday 08 February 18 13:41 GMT (UK)
As you know Anc has Janes Baptism;

FreeREG has Bapt to JOHN/ELIZABETH Urry , All Saints, Godshill, Isle of Wight;
BARNABAS  30 Dec 1798
JOHN 10 Aug 1800
MARTHA 12 May 1802
ELIZABETH 22 Apr 1804

As the Marriage of John Urry/Elizabeth Meader was 11 Oct 1798,   Carisbrooke, Hampshire, she was very pregnant with Barnabas!

Marriage;
24 Jan 1875, St. Mary, Carisbrooke, Hampshire
Jane URRY age 65, Father JOHN Urry
ISAAC ASH age 75, Father WILLIAM Ash

Looks like Jane named her Son after her Brother.


1841 Census
Chale, Hampshire
John Wray, 51 (may be 56), Ag Lab
Elizabeth Wray, 64
William Wray, 20, Mason
Ann Wray, 10

Image is URRY to me.

F/S has other Children to John/Elizabeth;
MARIAM 1807
JANE 1809**
DAVID 1813
ROBERT 1815
WILLIAM 1817, christened 3 Nov 1818****

*** William fits with 1841 Census, Ann may be a grandchild.

Isle of Wight is reg district for 1841 Census;
Death Reg GRO Index
URRY, JOHN age 73*****
GRO Reference: 1846  D Quarter in ISLE OF WIGHT  Volume 08  Page 164

So birth c 1773

Aaah looks like Jane has a child with Isaac Ash the died;
URRY, ELIZABETH  ASH, age 2***
GRO Reference: 1844  M Quarter in ISLE OF WIGHT  Volume 08  Page 190


Death Reg for Elizabeth?
URRY, ELIZABETH, age 77***
GRO Reference: 1853  D Quarter in ISLE OF WIGHT  Volume 02B  Page 289
Birth c 1776

Havent found her on 1851 Census so far.


Trish :)
Title: Re: John Urry
Post by: trish1120 on Thursday 08 February 18 14:15 GMT (UK)
F/S has a possible Elizabeth MEDER 1775

Just as a side line Wm 1817 married twice;

1844 to Mary RUSSELL
1850 to Fanny SPANNER

I checked childrens Birth Regs GRO Index

Death Reg there;
URRY, MARY, age 35***
GRO Reference: 1848  S Quarter in ISLE OF WIGHT  Volume 08  Page 132
Title: Re: John Urry
Post by: Lizzy Drippin on Thursday 08 February 18 15:48 GMT (UK)
Hi it looks like I have made a mistake with Jane, as she marries Thomas Layking or lakin and I do have most of their information. Thanks for your time. Lizzy.
Title: Re: John Urry
Post by: trish1120 on Friday 09 February 18 07:13 GMT (UK)
Ok now we know who she married the 1825 Marriage Record has her as Urry or Ivey.

If married 1825 I would think she was born before 1809.

Do you have any Census for Thomas/Jane?

Trish :)
Title: Re: John Urry
Post by: trish1120 on Friday 09 February 18 07:37 GMT (UK)
Ok found Thomas;

LAKIN, JOSIAH, Mothers mn URRY
GRO Reference: 1844  M Quarter in BURTON UPON TRENT UNION  Volume 17  Page 4

1841 Jane is not born in County and 1851 Thomas Lakin is widowed.

GRO 1849 Death Index as you know has her as age 40

I think we can rule out the Jane with Parents John/Elizabeth as she seems to marry Isaac Ash after many years of being with him.

That leaves 2 born Hampshire 1807-1811 to JAMES/HANNAH and DAVID/TRUTH


Have you been able to get a copy of the 1825 Marriage?
Jane would be underage so it may say with permission of ....
Title: Re: John Urry
Post by: trish1120 on Friday 09 February 18 07:49 GMT (UK)
THOMAS Lakin Baptised 3 Oct 1802, St Peter, Stapenhill, Derbyshire
Parents JOHN/ANN
(FreeREG)

Only one I can find nearest c 1799

Title: Re: John Urry
Post by: Lizzy Drippin on Friday 09 February 18 09:36 GMT (UK)
Hi again I agree you've ruled out John and Elizabeth for Jane's
parents. I have a Royal Marine Artillery record and it looks like Urry to me. They have a daughter in Portsmouth, Mary Ann and I also have the same parents as you for Thomas. I have Jane's death certificate, which states she is 40 in 1849, but these aren't always accurate are they?
Thank again Lizzy
Title: Re: John Urry
Post by: trish1120 on Friday 09 February 18 09:56 GMT (UK)
I'm not sure if anyone can but it may be an idea to see if anyone on the Hampshire Board can look up that 1825 Marriage.
As you know there is no image on Anc for it.
Title: Re: John Urry
Post by: Lizzy Drippin on Friday 09 February 18 12:56 GMT (UK)
There are two records on Find My Past , one is a Royal Marine Artillery Registry of Marriages and the other is a parish record. There are no parents of course, it just says batchelor and spinster.
Lizzy
Title: Re: John Urry
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 10 February 18 13:12 GMT (UK)
Darn it ::)

Was hoping for witnesses at least.
Title: Re: John Urry
Post by: Lizzy Drippin on Sunday 11 February 18 07:21 GMT (UK)
Thanks anyway at least you ruled out John and Elizabeth as parents.
Lizzy.
Title: Re: John Urry
Post by: yjs on Saturday 21 May 22 21:02 BST (UK)
My 3rd great grandmother is Jane Urry I have found a baptism record for her 1809 Godshill Isle of Wight. I think her parents are John Urry and Elizabeth Meader married 1798. I can find a birth for Elizabeth, but not John, can anyone help please?
Lizzy Dripping.
I have a John URRY Born 31 March 1773 Brading Hampshire IOW
Married 11 October 1798 Carisbrooke to Jane She was Baptised 1809 Godshill to Parents John and Elizabeth MEADER