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I am searching for any information of my grandfather Walter Calvin Taylor his second name could be Edwin possibly miss-read from the original document as Edwin has been used within the family his occupation in 1917 was a master stonemason. Records indicate that Walter had two children with Rose Caroline Parry the first being Phyllis May Rose Taylor born June 1915 in Regina Canada and the second being Edwin Jack Anderson Taylor born February 1917 in Lee, Lewisham in the county of London, England. I have traced Rose and Phyllis's family trees which show Walter as being related and his approximate birth date as 1892. I can find no other records for Walter, if anybody can provide me with information about Walter I would be very grateful so that i can continue research into my paternal family history.
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Welcome to rootschat :)
Does the name Walter Calvin Taylor come from one of the childrens birth certificates.
Where and when did Walter die
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Incoming passenger list
Nov 1916
Rose Taylor 23 housewife
Phyllis Taylor 1
19 Lee Terrace Balckheath
Ship- The Kroonland
from New York
Rose and Phyllis said to be from Canada
She must have been 6 mths pregnant with Edwin
I wonder when Walter came back to England?
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Thank you very much for responding so quickly.
Walter's name and occupation have been taken from his son Edwin's birth certificate.
I have not been able to find a birth, marriage or death record for Walter in either England or Canada.
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Did the family return to Canada, if not where did they go to
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Rose and Phyllis sailed back to Canada (destination Regina, Sask) in October 1918. Baby Edwin not with them.
Rose seems to have remarried to Dwight Robinson in Canada by the time of the 1921 census?
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Thanks for responding, just getting to grips with the messaging system I guess you can both see my response so this is to the second message.
Thanks for information I had not looked for yet. I have been concentrating on events that happened after her son Edwin was born and before Rose went back to Canada to marry Dwight Edwin Robinson in Saskatchewan in December 1918 and leaving Edwin in England.
I don't know if Walter was English or Canadian, not found him on passenger lists entering or leaving either country.
Having such a common surname searching through 20 thousand hits for one name is a bit of a task.
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It does seem very strange that Rose came over to England without her husband, very pregnant, had her baby and then returned to Canada, again without her husband, but leaving the child behind.
One does wonder if Walter was not actually the boy's father? Or had he already died before she came over to England and so she wanted to come to rellies over here to have the baby?
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Earlier on you quoted Lee Terrace Blackheath, its not an address I have come across but only a few streets away from 246 High Road Lee where Edwin was born, Rose's parents address confirmed by directories in Lewisham Library. I have been wondering if Walter was a fictitious person but there is the daughter Phyllis who is recorded mainly in Canada so I will concentrate on Walter in Canada.
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Wonder if Walter ever actually existed?
Son named Edwin and 2nd marriage to a Dwight Edwin Robinson - was he the boy's father really despite what was put on the birth certificate. I think I am correct in saying that he would have had to be in attendance to be named on the birth certificate.
Pheno
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I think I am correct in saying that he would have had to be in attendance to be named on the birth certificate.
I believe that if they were 'married' at the time of birth either parent could register the birth without the other being present.
Do you have the Canadian birth certificate :-\
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Thank you all for your responses, in answer to your questions. I do not have any Canadian birth, marriage or death certificates.
Edwin Jack could have been named after Rose Caroline's father, he was George Edwin Parry born 1847 in Bromley Kent.
Rose and Phyllis both entered England in Nov 1916 and returned to Canada in Oct 1918 under the name of Taylor (return designation Regina Sask) leaving baby Edwin in England.
I have all 3 B.M.and D.certificates for Edwin as he was my father.
I think my next line of research will be to track down Phyllis (my aunt) in Canada and Rose's siblings in England, any other suggestions will be gratefully appreciated.
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It might be worth posting the portion of the birth certificate that says Walter ...Taylor on the photo/identification board for suggestions on the middle name :-\
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'Edwin Jack Anderson Taylor '
Do you know where 'Anderson' came from?
Would the marriage certificate of Rose to Dwight Robinson tell you if she was divorced or widowed, or did she marry under Parry?
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Did Rose originally go out from England in 1913 intending to marry William Halton (??), a carpenter - very poor image so could be someone else.
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Do you know when Rose Caroline Parry arrived into Canada?
From what record is Walter Taylor's birthdate given as 1892? Or is this a presumption based on Rose's birthdate?
Regina directories from Peel's Prarie Provinces
http://peel.library.ualberta.ca/bibliography/3592.2.html
1915: http://peel.library.ualberta.ca/bibliography/3592.2.7/480.html there is a William Taylor, stonecutter, no Walter.
1916-1917: http://peel.library.ualberta.ca/bibliography/3592.2.8/499.html no Walter, but there is a Mrs Rose Taylor, a clerk at F W Woolworth, residing 2030 Stuart
This home address is listed in the same directory as that of Frank Sutton ( http://peel.library.ualberta.ca/bibliography/3592.2.8/167.html ) and in 1915 as vacant.
Fred or Frank Sutton appears at that address in the 1916 census, no sign of your family (perhaps Rose lodged with them briefly)
http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/006003/t-21943/jpg/31228_4363972-00695.jpg
William Taylor the stonecutter is a single man in 1916, 36, originally from Scotland, not sure he's connected other than the occupation there's nothing to suggest it
http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/006003/t-21943/jpg/31228_4363972-00421.jpg
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Sorry I have not responded for some days. Earlier I posted that I did not recognise the address 19 Lee Terrace I have since found out that When my dad was "adopted" by a couple James and Caroline Barnes, on their marriage certificate dated 1902 Caroline was shown as C Matthews living at 19 Lee Terrace, she was 10 years older than Rose. I did wonder if there was a connection between the Barnes and Parry families, looks like another area of research to undertake.
I have found 3 possible, earlier, arrivals for Rose in Canada the first is Feb 1911 Rose Taylor landed at Halifax NS on board the Royal Edward, second Feb 1913 Rose Taylor landed at Halifax NS on board the Teutonic, and lastly Aug 1913 R C Parry landed at Quebec on board the Scotian. This assumes that she was married already. Not sure that any are correct.
Walters age is a presumption taken from family trees for Rose Caroline Parry that I have obtained from Ancestry.com