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Title: Frazier - Canada to New York
Post by: charding on Friday 09 February 18 02:08 GMT (UK)
Looking for the baptism of James Frazier (probably Catholic but not positive) and the marriage of his parents and the family's immigration to the US.  Father born in Canada.  There is some indication from death certificates of James' siblings that their father was born in the Toronto, Canada area.  I've been able to confirm nothing prior to James's marriage to Mary Bustard in Amsterdam, New York 29 Nov 1883.  James may have been naturalized in 1881 through his father according to the 1925 New York State Census.
Title: Re: Frazier - Canada to New York
Post by: shellyesq on Monday 12 February 18 19:06 GMT (UK)
Do you have any record of James' parents in the US?
Title: Re: Frazier - Canada to New York
Post by: charding on Tuesday 13 February 18 03:58 GMT (UK)
Only an indication that James was naturalized through his parent in 1881 (as written on the 1925 census).  I'm assuming that the naturalization was his father, Thomas.  No clear indication on the naturalization research as of yet.

I assume that the parents had other children but after six years of research I still only have James.  I should have said that the indication of James being born in Toronto was from a few of his grown children's death certificates (not siblings). 
Title: Re: Frazier - Canada to New York
Post by: MonicaL on Wednesday 14 February 18 19:16 GMT (UK)
There is a marriage on 8 Jun 1882 in Nashua, New Hampshire for a Wilhelmine Frazier, aged 22 and daughter of a Thomas Frazier, to a Sevre Ricard, aged 30 and a carpenter by trade. She shows as born in Canada c. 1860. The marriage was RC.

Slightly different details here https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FDLK-TP8

Possible sibling to James?

Monica  :)
Title: Re: Frazier - Canada to New York
Post by: charding on Thursday 15 February 18 02:41 GMT (UK)
Monica,
It is definitely worth looking into.  Where did you find it?  You mention that familysearch has slightly different details.
Cheryl
Title: Re: Frazier - Canada to New York
Post by: MonicaL on Thursday 15 February 18 19:25 GMT (UK)
Just minor really. FS has Wilhelmine as aged 20 (b. 1862). The 'New Hampshire, Marriage and Divorce Records, 1659-1947' collection has an original image of the marriage record showing her age as 22 (b. 1860).

Monica

ADDED: Just seen that it is the marriage index (the source of the FS data) that has Wilhelmine's age wrong.
Title: Re: Frazier - Canada to New York
Post by: charding on Friday 16 February 18 00:06 GMT (UK)
Monica,
Hi!  While I want to believe this marriage is a connection, I cannot seem to find either of them in the Nashua directory for 1881 or 1882, together or separate, yet the marriage document says that they live in Nashua.  I can't find them on ANY other record.  This is quite a mess. 
Cheryl
Title: Re: Frazier - Canada to New York
Post by: MonicaL on Friday 16 February 18 17:21 GMT (UK)
Can't see much either to help further :-\

There is a birth of a daughter Antoinette Ricard showing for them in Nashua on 7 Aug 1882. Father showing as Severe and mother as Mary Flaser (or Frazer, depends on the index you look at for New Hampshire). No original image, just an index entry.

Baby Antoinette looks to have died just 22 days later in Nashua.

Monica
Title: Re: Frazier - Canada to New York
Post by: charding on Friday 16 February 18 17:41 GMT (UK)
How does a name go from Wilhelmina to Mary? 
Title: Re: Frazier - Canada to New York
Post by: MonicaL on Friday 16 February 18 17:56 GMT (UK)
Wilhelmine, to Minnie to Mary....without original images to view, it is always impossible to guess at what is on the page...

Monica
Title: Re: Frazier - Canada to New York
Post by: MonicaL on Friday 16 February 18 21:48 GMT (UK)
Cheryl, a possible lead on Wilhelmina (who we still don't know if related to James   :-\).

It could be that the same Wilhelmina who married Severe Ricard in New Hampshire in 1882 shows in Vermont in 1888 marrying a George Jones on 16 October. She is showing as age 26 and widowed/divorced. Her place of birth Quebec and father Thomas, mother Mary A Boardman (or similar). Would she marry as Fraser? Maybe this was the first married surname for this Wilhemina.

Added: Just found it on FS https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XF4F-J5T

Wish we could find a stronger link...think I am scrambling around now.

Monica
Title: Re: Frazier - Canada to New York
Post by: charding on Friday 16 February 18 22:35 GMT (UK)
I don't think the Vermont one would be correct based on the names of James' parents on his death certificate.  I think, if they are siblings, I'd be looking for the mother to be Wilhelmina Wallace.

Cheryl