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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Angus (Forfarshire) => Topic started by: *Sandra* on Friday 09 February 18 19:32 GMT (UK)
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There are many boards which this appeal would fit on, since Frederick moved around.
CWGC Appeal for relatives of Frederick Charles Dakers. Frederick Charles Dakers was born 10 April 1872 Montrose Angus Scotland. Father David Dakers and mother Betsy Jane Jolly.
1881 census 31 Wharf St Montrose Angus.
Betsy Dakers 34 Master Mariners Wife.
David Dakers 13
James Dakers 11
Annabella Dakers 7
Frederick Dakers 10
Edward Dakers 2
1891 census 94 Nethergate Dundee Angus.
Betsy Dakers 44
James Dakers 21
Asabella (should read Annabella Dakers 17
Edward Dakers 12
Alexander Barty 18
Washington Hughs 17 Boarder.
1901 census Thorter Row Errol Perthshire.
David Dakers 61
Betsy Dakers 54
David Dakers - passed away aged 81 years in 1916 - 351/11 - Errol Perthshire.
Betsy Jane nee jolly Dakers - passed away aged 87 years in 1933 - Alloway (Ayr)
UK, Apprentices Indentured in Merchant Navy, 1824-1910 - Frederick Charles Dakers - born 1872
Registration or Indenture Date 13 Aug 1887 Dundee.
UK and Ireland, Masters and Mates Certificates, 1850-1927 - Frederick Charles Dakers - born 1872 -Montrose - Fulfil the duties of a first mate - Issue Date 9 Sep 1893 Dundee - Certificate Number 024927
UK and Ireland, Masters and Mates Certificates, 1850-1927 - Frederick Charles Dakers - born 1872 Montrose - Fulfil duties of a Master of a foreign going ship - Issue Date 25 Nov 1895 Dundee - Certificate Number 024927
Marriage of Frederick Charles Dakers
Frederick Charles Dakers - Jessie Maud Jackson - 1902 - 351/8 Errol -
FIND A GRAVE ENTRY
Halifax Memorial Halifax, Halifax County, Nova Scotia, Canada.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/56171218
His ship Tagona hit by U Boat -Torpedoed 5 miles WSW of Trevose
PM sent to owner of anc tree.
Sandra
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New York passenger List - Frederick Charles Dakers (Capt) - born 1872 Montrose Scotland and aged 36 years. Travelling Liverpool to New York on the Lusitania - arriving 31 July 1908 - wife at home Errol Perthshire. Had been in the USA in 1906 - New York - going to Philip Ronbright. 36 Broadway. NY.
Sandra
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Frederick C Dakers - 1872 - 1918 - death registered Penzance Cornwall - 5c 267
Frederick Charles Dakers - 16 May 1918 - probate 6 September 1918 London.
Frederick Charles Dakers of Northbank Errol - Master Mariner - drowned on 16 May 1918 at sea - confirmation of Mrs Elizabeth Young or Dakers. (widow) sealed london 6 th September.
Sandra
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Brother Edward Dakers born 1878 Forfarshire Montrose and aged 23 years - was living at 62 Queens Street Dumfries - the home of Ebenezer Dalziel - occupation architect.
Edward John William Dakers married Maggie Blair - 1906 - Dumrfies - 821/73
Edward John W Dakers - aged 68 years - 1947 - 842/9 - Moffat
Maggie Blair Dakers - aged 91 years - 1970 - 842/62 - Moffat
Birth of a daughter ???
Margaret Blair Kakers - 1907 - 821/262 - Dumfries
Sandra
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Brother James Bain Dakers - 17 October 1869 Craig By Montrose,Angus,Scotland.
James married Jemima Tulloch.
James Bain Dakers married Jemima G Tulloch - 1899 - 307/16 - Mains
1901 census - Howden Dock River Tyne Vessels, Northumberland - SS. Naworth Castle - J B Dakers - aged 31 years. Master Seas Jemima Dakers aged 27 years - Masters wife.
Couple appear to have had 2 children -
James Tullis Dakers - 31 May 1902 passed away 1967 - Monikie, Angus, Scotland.
Angus Gordon Dakers - Born 7 August 1905 - Dundee, Angus, Scotland passed away 20 November 1988 - Tustin, Orange, California. Listed on the California Death Index - Orange California - mothers maiden name given as Tullis.
FIND A GRAVE
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/140086575
India, Select Deaths and Burials, 1719-1948 - J B Dakers - 1869 - passed away 22 January 1914 -
burial 23 January 1914 - Calcutta, Bengal, India.
Sandra
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Angus Gordon Dakers appears on the 1940 US census - Athena Street Pasadena, Los Angeles, California.
Angus G Dakers 36 Chief Officer.
Ora Lea W Dakers 40
son G L Dakers 2
Dorothy Taylor 21
Ora Leawinona Bowman-Ora Leawinona Dakers passed away 30 January 1941 - father Bowman - Mother Sauer.
Burial - Mountain View Cemetery and Mausoleum Altadena, Los Angeles County.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/12624205
Looks like Angus remarried to Jennie Jones (Dakers) 20 December 1904 - 12 August 1999
Last Residence 95602 Auburn, Placer, California,
Sandra
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Unfortunately the owner of the very comprehensive anc tree is not a direct relative and does not feel able to contribute to CWGC. :'( So drawn a blank on that one.
As I have said before on here, it is amazing how many times that you draw a blank because they are very, very distantly related. Taking a second look, this particularly ancestry tree has 69,654 people in it, so not surprising to get a negative response.
Sister Anaabella Christie Dakers married Edward Arthur Parton - 1899
Annabella C Dakers - Edward Arthur Parton - 1899 - 282/3 137 - St Clement.
This union may have had 4 daughters and 3 sons - so could be a possible line to check.
Sandra
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May be a red herring...
The newspaper report of Annabella and Edward's marriage notes that he was 'of Liverpool'. Could they have returned there?
Based on this, there is a 1946 passenger list entry for a 1902 born Edward Arthur Parton of 147 Childwell Road, Liverpool travelling on a 90 day business trip to California. Nearest relative at home being a Mrs A C Parton, also of 147 Childwell Road. No indication if this Edward was single or married, so can't tell if Mrs A C Parton was his wife or mum.
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Can I just check...
. Marriage of Frederick Charles Dakers
Frederick Charles Dakers - Jessie Maud Jackson - 1902 - 351/8 Errol -
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. Frederick Charles Dakers of Northbank Errol - Master Mariner - drowned on 16 May 1918 at sea - confirmation of Mrs Elizabeth Young or Dakers. (widow)
so, was there a second marriage?
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Frederick Charles Dakers of Northbank Errol - Master Mariner - drowned on 16 May 1918 at sea - confirmation of Mrs Elizabeth Young or Dakers. (widow)
so, was there a second marriage?
Frederick C Dakers showing as marrying Elizabeth Young Sept. Q. 1916. West Derby.
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Good find, and a 1907 death of a:
DAKERS Jessie Maud 44 Islington
however, it doesn't seem to tie in with:
. Frederick Charles Dakers (Capt) - born 1872 Montrose Scotland and aged 36 years. Travelling Liverpool to New York on the Lusitania - arriving 31 July 1908 - wife at home Errol Perthshire.
unless, if the Jessie death above was his wife, he married again soon after (albeit no obvious such in England or Scotland)?
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The only Dakers/Jackson birth I'm seeing in England in timescale, was a Matt Mallaburn Dakers born and died in Sunderland area in 1901, so not likely to be connected as it was before Frederick and Jessie's 1902 marriage. No obvious Dakers/Young birth/s in England for 1916-18.
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SP has under Wills:
Dakers
Frederick Charles
31/8/1918
master mariner, Northbank, Errol, d. 16/05/1918 at Sea, testate.
Perth Sheriff Court
SC49/31/230
and
Dakers
Frederick
31/8/1918
or Charles, Northbank, Errol, d. 16/05/1918 at Sea, testate.
Perth Sheriff Court Wills
SC49/32/25
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Edward John William Dakers married Maggie Blair - 1906 - Dumrfies - 821/73
Edward John W Dakers - aged 68 years - 1947 - 842/9 - Moffat
Sandra
a death notice appeared in the Dundee Courier on 2/4/1947. Said "at Magnor, Hartfell Crescent, Moffat". Also mentioned he had been "late District Valuer, Ayr" and "beloved husband of Maggie Blair Murray".
So, likely:
http://www.scottisharchitects.org.uk/architect_full.php?id=201007
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There is this contcact with a tree on Genes Reunited:
Prior contact Tree owner
Frederick Dakers 1871 Montrose, Forfar, An... No John Find out more
Carol
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Brother Edward Dakers born 1878 Forfarshire Montrose and aged 23 years - was living at 62 Queens Street Dumfries - the home of Ebenezer Dalziel - occupation architect.
Edward John William Dakers married Maggie Blair - 1906 - Dumrfies - 821/73
Edward John W Dakers - aged 68 years - 1947 - 842/9 - Moffat
Maggie Blair Dakers - aged 91 years - 1970 - 842/62 - Moffat
Birth of a daughter ???
Margaret Blair Kakers - 1907 - 821/262 - Dumfries
Sandra
Mention of:
https://www.myheritage.com/names/edward_dakers
suggests, but would need checked, they had one daughter: Margaret Blair Jolly Douglas (born Dakers). Which fits with your birth find above and with the known link to 'Jolly' surname in earlier generation, therefore it would seem she married a 'Douglas'.
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Looking back at some old notes I have - Margaret Blair Dakers
Margaret Blair Dakers - married Thomas Anderson Douglas - 1939 - 578/1 57 - Ayr
Sandra
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There is a death on SP for a Margaret Blair Douglas in Dumfries in 1970 Ref 821/391.
Dorrie
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Sorry meant wo add she was aged 63
Dorrie