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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Topic started by: ellecat on Tuesday 13 February 18 01:55 GMT (UK)
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Have a reference in Fasti Ecclesiae[ book on Scottish ministers] of Hugh Anderson of Umbridge Castle. There does not appear to be a castle in Scotland of this name. Have checked records from Scotland the original transcript says of Umbridge Castle. The article is dated 1751.Hugh was born
c1704 in Morayshire but may have moved possibly Edinburgh. Could this be the name of an Estate or .
House. I have searched myself for 12months
Does anyone have a suggestion as to this place would be geatful Ellecat
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Could be Northumbria
Northumbria was disputed between the emerging kingdoms of England and Scotland. The land north of the Tweed was finally ceded to Scotland in 1018 as a result of the battle of Carham. Yorkshire and Northumberland were first mentioned as separate in the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle in 1065.
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Solid Rock
Thanks for your suggestion still no mention of Umbridge Castle. There is sum seventy castles in Norhumbria most interesting.Ellecat
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Same subject.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=747081.0
Malky
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I am prepared to stick my neck out and say that there is no real castle in Scotland called Umbridge. So we have to try to think how this place might have been (mis)spelled or mistranscribed. Ideally one would want to see the original handwritten record, not the version used by Hew Scott in Fasti Ecclesiae Scoticanae.
In which volume of Fasti is Hugh Anderson listed? Where was he a minister?
The Northumbria suggestion is interesting, even if the chosen image is a tad mischievous (that particular castle wasn't built until 1868-1886, long after Hugh's death), but Hugh's birth was almost 700 years after the Battle of Carham, and the land south of the Tweed was in England.
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We have had a researcher check the role of heirs were the details for fasti would have been acquired.
We too expected wrong spelling or misread, but the original has Umbridge castle as well.
Hugh of Umbridge castle is listed under his father Rev Alexander Anderson of Duffus,so look under Duffus Parish . It appears in a few volumes. Thanks for your reply Ellecat
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Both Northumberland & Cumberland came under Scottish control at various times post the Battle of Carham. The border on the west was the river Eamont. The Tweed as the border was set in 1237 by the Treaty of York. The land north of the Tweed was taken, not ceded, post the battle of Carham & the use of Gaelic spread south to that river!
Skoosh.
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Found this
https://www.geni.com/people/Hugh-Anderson-of-Udol-Min-of-Cromarty/6000000019307108175
Malky
Added :- Last paragraph on page 385 first on 386
http://archive.org/stream/fastiecclesiaesc06scot#page/384/mode/2up
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Thankyou for entry details in fasti were there is a reference to Lachlan Shaws history of Moray
Your reference to Hugh is earlier same family group . We are interested in a Hugh Anderson b c1704
heir to his fathers estate his father died 1721 . Hugh is in the heir roll 1751 , so I suspect he and mother held the various properties till 1751 very unusual.The only other information I have is Hugh was a writer in Edinburgh[lawyer] from 1726. Have looked for roll of writers. There must be sumway to find this person .
Hugh Anderson writer Edinburgh after 1726
Hugh Anderson of Umbridge castle 1751 CAN NOT FIND THIS PERSON ellecat
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Hmmmm. On Page 386 there is a reference to Hugh being served heir to his father, and the source quoted is Shaw, iii, 404.
If Hugh was served heir to his father, there should be a detailed record in the National Records of Scotland which will provide details of Hugh and state that he is the nearest legitimate heir to his father. (I wonder why he was not served heir until 30 years after the death of his father?)
I happen to have a copy of Shaw's The History of the Province of Moray, 1775, and of the revised edition by J F S Gordon, 1882, which, unlike the first edition, runs to 3 volumes. Vol iii, Page 404, says that the 9th Protestant minister of Duffus and Unthank was Alex Anderson [son of the Rev Hugh A, of Udol, min of Cromarty], ord about 1700. Died in March 1721. [MD Aberdeen 10 Nov 1719]. No mention of Hugh Jr.
It might be worth a look in the Roll of Graduates of the University of Aberdeen.
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Thanks you are correct there is record states he is the heir in N.R.O nothing more gained.
Trace records Kings college degree nothing that takes you further ellecat
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From the on-line catalogue of the National Records of Scotland. Search for "Hugh Anderson" as a phrase.
Bond by Lachlan M'Intosh [McIntosh] of Torcastle to Mr. David Fearn, advocate, for £30, dated at Edinburgh, 24th July 1693, Joseph Mackay [McKay] of Bighouse being a witness: (2) Assignation thereof by Fearn to Mr. Hugh Anderson, writer in Edinburgh; dated 28th June 1728: (3) Summons for payment at the instance of Anderson, dated 11th June 1733: and (4) Discharge by Mr. Hugh Anderson of Bridge Castle [?nr. Bathgate] to William M'Intosh [McIntosh] late of Daviot, now of M'Intosh [McIntosh], as representing the said deceased Lachlan M'Intosh of Torcastle, for £60, in full of the above claim; dated at Edinburgh, 7th January 1735.
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Bridge Castle !
Some information: https://www.scotsman.com/news/home-in-on-a-castle-1-725503
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridge_Castle
Another reference
https://goo.gl/StB8QV
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From my 1882 Ordnance Gazetteer of Scotland:
Bridgecastle, an estate, with a mansion, an ancient castle, a hamlet, and a colliery in Torphichen parish, Linlithgowshire. The mansion stands near the Blackstone and Boghead section of the Monkland railway, 2 1/2 miles NW of Bathgate, and has around it some fine old trees. The ancient castle stands in the south-western vicinity of the mansion; was formerly the seat of the Earls of Linlithgow; and as to its mere walls, remains in nearly its original condition. The hamlet lies about 1/2 mile SSW of the mansion.
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Well done GR2, you've cracked it.
http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NS9470
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First entry, 3rd line :-
https://scotlandsplaces.gov.uk/digital-volumes/historical-tax-rolls/horse-tax-rolls-1785-1798/horse-tax-volume-26/73
"I note a sasine in the Register of Sasines for Ross and Cromarty in favour of Alexander Anderson of Udoll Esquire dated 5 Jun 1778, the content of which relates to land in Cromarty. It contains passing reference to the “deceast Alexr Gordon of Ardoch” and “Captain Adam Gordon his son” “to enter heir to his said father by a Decreet of Adjudication of the Lords of Council and Session of date [25 Nov 1767] obtained at the instance of William Baillie of Rosehall and George Munro of Culcairn” regarding payment and satisfaction to them of two accumulated sums amounting together to 2,334 pounds Scots. It would appear, therefore, that his later days were dogged by debts."
From :- http://www.kirkmichael.info/LadyArdochLife.html
Malky
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Well all I can say is well done and many many thanks to all.It is so good to solve the Umbridge castle issue , it has been on my radar for a long time. I am delighted with the results.
Ellecat