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Title: 1889 diary p16 Looking Backward from 2000 to 1887
Post by: Deskman on Thursday 15 February 18 20:42 GMT (UK)
This may be a googly!

Here is an extract of notes on Looking Backward from 2000 to 1887 by Edward Bellamy; a work of Utopian science-fiction from 1888.

The full text of Looking Backward from 2000 to 1887 can be found at https://www.gutenberg.org/files/624/624-h/624-h.htm (https://www.gutenberg.org/files/624/624-h/624-h.htm)

I have transcribed all the notes bar a few words. Can you help?

"people educated till 21 leave off at 45 whole system
 xxxxxx of  state erecting one great umbrella or awning along streets
over heads of people instead of each individual holding a little"

Thanks for any ideas.

bold text is thanks to help here
Title: Re: 1889 diary p16 Looking Backward from 2000 to 1887
Post by: Bookbox on Thursday 15 February 18 21:37 GMT (UK)
... erecting one great umbrella ...
Title: Re: 1889 diary p16 Looking Backward from 2000 to 1887
Post by: Deskman on Thursday 15 February 18 21:49 GMT (UK)
Erecting is impressive Bookbox.
Title: Re: 1889 diary p16 Looking Backward from 2000 to 1887
Post by: sparrett on Thursday 15 February 18 21:51 GMT (UK)
......whole system red tape of state under one giant umbrella......
 :P
Sue
Title: Re: 1889 diary p16 Looking Backward from 2000 to 1887
Post by: Deskman on Thursday 15 February 18 22:48 GMT (UK)
Is that tongue in your cheek sparrett?
Title: Re: 1889 diary p16 Looking Backward from 2000 to 1887
Post by: Bookbox on Thursday 15 February 18 23:09 GMT (UK)
I must say I'm having difficulty seeing ... red tape. I can't suggest anything feasible at the moment, but I think it might begin with b... and end with ...e, possibly ...re ?

In the first line, is it perhaps ... leave off at 45 (rather than laid off) ?

I do think the umbrella is great (rather than giant).
Title: Re: 1889 diary p16 Looking Backward from 2000 to 1887
Post by: Deskman on Thursday 15 February 18 23:59 GMT (UK)
Thanks Bookbox,

I should have taken more care with great and leave.

I have nothing to offer on the possible b....e word. I'll think about it.

Deskman


Title: Re: 1889 diary p16 Looking Backward from 2000 to 1887
Post by: arthurk on Friday 16 February 18 13:20 GMT (UK)
whole system being purpose of state??

Not too sure about purpose, but nothing else comes to mind at present.
Title: Re: 1889 diary p16 Looking Backward from 2000 to 1887
Post by: Deskman on Friday 16 February 18 14:13 GMT (UK)
Thanks arthurk and Bookbox.

I'll give this googly a rest.

Deskman.
Title: Re: 1889 diary p16 Looking Backward from 2000 to 1887
Post by: bbart on Friday 16 February 18 19:46 GMT (UK)
A wild guess, if he dropped a few letters, as he has done before:

be(in)g peop(l)e & state  OR by peop(l)e & state

Good luck with it. It's a tough one!
Title: Re: 1889 diary p16 Looking Backward from 2000 to 1887
Post by: Deskman on Saturday 17 February 18 01:16 GMT (UK)
I do like your 'wild guess' bbart.  That really provokes thought.