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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Durham => Topic started by: Elliven on Saturday 17 February 18 13:42 GMT (UK)
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This man was a miner and an innkeeper at the Waggon Inn, White-le-Head, born about 1863 and is shown as such on the 1901 census but his bankruptcy proceedings were completed in that year and they give his address as Todds Houses, Dipton (the adjoining village) in 1901. I know he had an 8 year old son at the time but I have been able to find nothing else about him. Does anyone have any information about a Turpin family in the area at around that time.
I have not been able to find anyone in the village who has any idea where Todds Houses were but they are certainly no longer there - unless the street name has changed. However I believe they have been demolished as the village was subject to large scale demolition in the 1950s and 1960s.
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Would this be the man? -
1901 -
William Turpin 38 b. White le Head, Durham Coal Miner (hewer)
Annie I Turpin 33
William C Turpin 8
Annie J Turpin 7
George A Turpin 5
Edith Turpin 3
Charles B Turpin 1
RG13 Piece 4666 Folio 190 Page 39 16 Old Rows, Dipton
If not the correct man can you post the 1901 that you refer to please.
JJ
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You can see Todd's Building, Dipton, on this 1961 map https://www.old-maps.co.uk/#/Map/415933/554246/12/100954
Stan
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Thank you JJen,
This is definitely the right man. The census information was given to me by someone else and it appears to be wrong. However, it is quite possible that Todd's Building was part of Old Rows - which have been demolished as I previously mentioned.
Elliven
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Thank you Stan,
The building you have found is still there! Better still, it is in easy walking distance from where I live so I can go and take a look for myself. This must have been a temporary address whilst he was going through the bankruptcy as it is definitely not the Old Rows that JJen mentioned - but it is very close to them.
Elliven
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By 1911 he had nine children and he died the following year aged 49, leaving his wife to cope alone with all of those children.
To JJen the address you gave me later changed as the street was renamed Annfield Street but the house number remained the same. These were primitive and very basic houses but some were bigger than others and, with the extra children, he got a move to No 10 which was one of the bigger ones. For being primitive, they seem to have been well loved. There are still people in the village who lived in them until they were demolished in the 1960s.
To Stan, the building you found was the correct one and it is there "hidden in plain sight" but you would never notice it in passeing because it is at right angles to the road and tucked onto the further end of the street, masked by the bulk of the other buildings. In 32 years living in this (admittedly large) village, I had never before seen Todd's Buildings.
Many thanks to you both
Elliven
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This is all I can find on the Turpin's:
COLLIERLEY ST. THOMAS PARISH CHURCH Transcript of Marriage Registers (1842-1950)
Date of
Marriage Name Surname Age Rank or
Profession Residence at Time
of Marriage Father Rank or
Profession
of Father Spouse
21-Jul-1886 William TURPIN 24 Ba. Agent Dipton William TURPIN Miner Annie Jane THORNTON
COLLIERLEY ST. THOMAS PARISH CHURCH Transcript of Baptism Registers (1841-1908)
When
Baptised Child's Christian
Name Parents Surname Abode Occupation,
Trade or
Profession
3-Aug-1862 William William and Ann TURPIN Whiteley Head Blue Row Miner
15-Aug-1869 Sarah William and Elizabeth TURPIN Dipton Miner
23-Oct-1871 Elenor William and Elizabeth TURPIN Dipton Miner
8-Apr-1874 Elizabeth William and Elizabeth TURPIN Belleview Miner
1-Nov-1876 Nicholas William and Elizabeth TURPIN Belle View Miner
24-Sep-1879 Thomas William and Elizabeth TURPIN Dipton Miner
30-Aug-1882 Ann William and Elizabeth TURPIN Dipton Miner
COLLIERLEY ST. THOMAS PARISH CHURCH Transcript of Burial Registers (1841 to 1949)
Forename Surname Abode When Buried Age
Mary Ann TURPIN Whiteley Head 6-Aug-1861 4 years
HISTORY OF THE PARISH OF DIPTON By J.W. FAWCETT (1911)
1900
April 12th – Died at Todd’s Buildings, Dipton, aged 76, Ann, widow of William Turpin.
McTalbert
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Hello McTalbert,
Thank you for this information which is most helpful. The very last line tells me an awful lot. The William Turpin I am investigating is clearly the son of William and Ann and the mention of her explains the connection with Todd's Buildings. The family ultimately found a place to live (and expand) in Old Rows which became Annfield Street but William had recently become bankrupt as a publican and the bankruptcy papers gave his address as Todd's Buildings so he had obviously moved in with his mother as a temporary measure.
Whilst he was running the pub, he maintained his job as a miner - which explains how he eventually became re-housed in Old Rows which belonged to the Colliery. He died at age 49 but I have yet to find the cause which could have been natural or an accident in the pit.
Thanks again,
Elliven
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The book I quoted from was published in 1911, just before William's death in that year.
I have checked the excellent Durham Mining Museum website and William is not listed as a 'pit' casualty. The Mining Museum's list of casualties is not necessarily comprehensive however.
If you live in the Dipton area you can check the Dipton St. James parish registers in Annfield Plain library.
McTalbert