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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Gloucestershire => Topic started by: JACK GEE on Saturday 17 February 18 10:17 GMT (UK)
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Baker - Bristol/Shirehampton 1850/60.
Hi Folkes, looking for a family who operated a bakery by the name of Filer.
Would any of the lists available at the time have them listed and if so does anyone have access?
Cheers
Jack Gee
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Hi Jack
May I ask why you have put your request on someone else's topic? Unless someone happens to look at Anna99's topic, like I have, you are unlikely to get any response.
I can see why you may have chosen to make your request as the topic heading is Occupations Bristol. However it doesn't mean that it is a general topic for all occupations.
Perhaps you would like to consider starting your own topic on the Filer family? :)
Topic split off.
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There is this family in 1851 living at Cambell Farm, Shirehampton, Westbury upon Trym, Clifton
James Filer 35 Baker Chelwood, Somerset,
Mary Ann Filer 36 Shirehampton, Gloucestershire
Emily Filer 12 Shirehampton, Gloucestershire,
Mary Ann Filer 10 Shirehampton, Gloucestershire
Ella Filer 6 Shirehampton, Gloucestershire,
Edgar Filer 4 Shirehampton, Gloucestershire
Kate Filer 1 Shirehampton, Gloucestershire,
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To Girl Guide and Kaye99 -
I posted this to OCCUPATIONS BRISTOL hoping that the topic would bring to the surface a list of businesses to help identify my target. I felt it was relevant to the subject.
The 1851 Census that you thankfully dropped in i have seen the copy.
My George Gilbert according to oral history stayed at the Filers Bakery before they came to Australia.
98% of the correspondence to this forum have brick walls.
If i have offended anyone in this case then i apologise.
However if a topic comes up that might get a chance to get round any of my brickwalls i will still ask the questions. One of the techniques used by most genealogists is looking at information from a different angle [eg looking at spouses].
Cheers
Jack Gee
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Have you tried Historical Trade Directories?
They are available on the University of Leicester website:
http://specialcollections.le.ac.uk/cdm/landingpage/collection/p16445coll4
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In case you dont have this;
Marriage;
10 December 1837, Bristol, St Michael the Archangel on the Mount, Gloucestershire
James FILER, Father JOHN
Mary Ann GILBERT, Father WILLIAM
Both single
(Familysearch.Org)
Cant find a Baptism for James but there are several Filers on 1851 Census born Chelwood including a PHILLIP Filer.
His Bapt is on FreeREG 27 Jul 1817 Philip, Son of JOHN/ELIZABETH
Father a Labourer
Just wondered if being a Baker was a Family business.
Trish :)
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I can see where the Gilbert comes from
Name: James Filer
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Marriage Date: 10 Dec 1837
Marriage Place: Bristol, St Michael the Archangel on the Mount, Gloucestershire, England
Father: John Filer
Spouse: Mary Ann Gilbert
Some of the children's birth registrations
FILER, EMILY MARY GILBERT
GRO Reference: 1838 D Quarter in THE CLIFTON UNION Volume 11 Page 277
FILER, EMMA LOUISA GILBERT (Ella?)
GRO Reference: 1845 M Quarter in THE CLIFTON UNION Volume 11 Page 368
FILER, EDGAR GILBERT GILBERT
GRO Reference: 1847 M Quarter in THE CLIFTON UNION Volume 11 Page 323
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As has just been posted, the James Filer on 1851 census had married a Mary Ann Gilbert. The 1851 and 1861 census both show that the only Filer who was a Baker was said James Filer (indeed, he is the only Filer in the whole country who was a baker). Clearly, this is the Filer family that you are seeking.
Annette
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A belated thanks to all.
Especially Trish and Kgerrard - concise as usual.
The Filers were Bakers and James had a brother Abraham that was also a baker.
Please excuse my ignorance but what is Clifton Union?
Cheers
Jack
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Registration Districts were originally based on the existing Poor Law Unions.
Many earlier BMD records and Certificates kept on using the name of the relevant Poor Law Union.
So "The Clifton Union" means the same thing as Clifton Registration District.
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Thanks KGarrard,
a quick google search came up with Clifton District, Bristol. My assumption is that it is in the same general area?
Cheers
Jack
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There is list of the constituent parishes of Clifton Registration District, and the relevant dates, here:
https://www.ukbmd.org.uk/reg/districts/clifton.html
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From what I can see Abraham Filer was a Cordwainer (shoemaker) not Baker
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Something strange, James enumerated twice?
1861 Census
Abraham Filer 38
Jane Filer 40
Clara Ann Filer 11
James Filer 44 Brother Mar Baker born Shirehampton
Mary Filer 40 Sister in Law born Shirehampton
1861 Census
James Filer 45 Head Mar Master Baker born Chelwood, Somerset
Emily M Filer 22
Kate M Filer 11
James A Filer 7
Alice Filer 5
William S Smith 16