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Title: Charles Lindsay Morrison b. 1886 , Scotland to New Zealand.
Post by: ev on Sunday 18 February 18 17:48 GMT (UK)
Hi ,

I think Charles married Mary Ethel Hoye(s) 1916 New Zealand and they had a son in 1916.
Family stories say that he served in the New Zealand Forces in WW1 and at some point returned to Scotland(possibly during his Army service ?).
It looks like he died in New Zealand in 1931.

His parents were James Henderson Morrison and Rachel Milne Tawse , the son born in 1916 had the middle name of Tawse so I think I have the correct Charles Morrison.

I don't know when he went to New Zealand , he was on the 1901 Census in Scotland.

Any further information would be much appreciated  :)


ev
Title: Re: Charles Lindsay Morrison b. 1886 , Scotland to New Zealand.
Post by: Johnf04 on Sunday 18 February 18 19:00 GMT (UK)
Will and probate for Charles Lindsay MORRISON - from image #1

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89GM-M28X?cc=1865481&cat=2240878

Although he died in 1931, the probate is dated 1938.
Title: Re: Charles Lindsay Morrison b. 1886 , Scotland to New Zealand.
Post by: Johnf04 on Sunday 18 February 18 19:03 GMT (UK)
There is an arrival in New Zealand in 1905 of a Chas MORRISON of about the right age:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DY79-G27?i=1&cc=1609792
Title: Re: Charles Lindsay Morrison b. 1886 , Scotland to New Zealand.
Post by: Johnf04 on Sunday 18 February 18 19:10 GMT (UK)
There are two military record files for your man

http://ndhadeliver.natlib.govt.nz/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE20474036

http://ndhadeliver.natlib.govt.nz/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE14637366

The second one is mainly medical information.
Title: Re: Charles Lindsay Morrison b. 1886 , Scotland to New Zealand.
Post by: Johnf04 on Sunday 18 February 18 19:26 GMT (UK)
The first military file has a record of his marriage, 3 children, and his admission to a hospital in Dundee in 1918.
Title: Re: Charles Lindsay Morrison b. 1886 , Scotland to New Zealand.
Post by: ev on Sunday 18 February 18 19:47 GMT (UK)
Thank you  :)

Looks like Mary didn't deal with the Probate and had to go back to court years later.

The Forces records are certainly my Charles Morrison.

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and his admission to a hospital in Dundee in 1918.
doesn't look like he was being treated for war wounds........  :-X

Charles Lindsay Morrison was my great grandad's(Peter Morrison) younger brother.


ev

Title: Re: Charles Lindsay Morrison b. 1886 , Scotland to New Zealand.
Post by: minniehaha on Monday 19 February 18 01:41 GMT (UK)
Hello,

Some snippets about Charles.....


Injured in a mining accident?

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/WHDT19310120.2.8?query=charles%20morrison

Funeral  notice:

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/WHDT19311119.2.9?query=c.%20l.%20morrison

Re letter of sympathy:

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/WHDT19311128.2.9?query=c.%20l.%20morrison

Death notice:

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/WHDT19311119.2.7?query=charles%20lindsay%20morrison

Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Charles Lindsay Morrison b. 1886 , Scotland to New Zealand.
Post by: minniehaha on Monday 19 February 18 01:45 GMT (UK)


Cemetery details:

Surname:   MORRISON
Forenames:   CHARLES LINDSAY
Gender:   M
Marital Status:   
Occupation:   MINER
Address:   BORN IN DUNDEE
    
    
Country of Birth:   
Age:   45
Date of Death:   17/11/1931
Date of burial:   19/11/1931
Cemetery:   Waihi Public Cemetery
Section:   PRB
Block:   E
Lot:   343

Denomination:       Presbyterian Church


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Charles Lindsay Morrison b. 1886 , Scotland to New Zealand.
Post by: minniehaha on Monday 19 February 18 01:55 GMT (UK)
Death of the son born in 1916........

1998/19851   Morrison   William Tawse   25 November 1916

Added: From WW1 file- [See replies #3 & #4]......

Births-

1915/7351   Hoye   Jessie   Mary Ethel   NR

1915/22442   Bramble   Alexa Edna Rita   Sarah   NR

Added:

Marriage-

1933/6621   Alexa Edna Rita   Bramble   John Howard   Sorenson


Divorce file (1942) [restricted access]

https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=22516528


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Charles Lindsay Morrison b. 1886 , Scotland to New Zealand.
Post by: minniehaha on Monday 19 February 18 02:56 GMT (UK)
Cemetery details for son:

Surname:   MORRISON
Forenames:   WILLIAM TAWSE
Gender:   M
Marital Status:   M
Occupation:   RET:TRUCK DRIVER
Address:   
    
    
Country of Birth:   WAIHI, NEW ZEALAND
Age:   81
Date of Death:   18/09/1998
Date of burial:   22/09/1998
Cemetery:   Waihi Public Cemetery
Section:   
Block:   G3
Lot:   133
Denomination:       
Unknown


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Charles Lindsay Morrison b. 1886 , Scotland to New Zealand.
Post by: Fresh Fields on Monday 19 February 18 06:41 GMT (UK)
Hello.

A simple Charles Morrison search of our PapersPast site brings up a number of references to Charles, mining accidents etc and one on February 14 1922, when Mary gives public notice that she is applying for a residential site licence under some mining law. No 125423 14/2/1922.

Waihi Daily Telegraph.

Sorry, must dash, but might get back later to dig further and attach a link or two.

Alan.

PS Back again. For some reason I have been unable to raise a search on CENOTAPH today. However my first PapersPast search for Charles Morrison found few hits in the Waikato. When I returned I just searched for MORRISON limited to the Waihi Daily Telegraph and discovered there was a Mine surveyer and others in that industry. Herewith is links that look like they link to your Charles Lindsay MORRISON.

Mary MORRISON  …….… a license for a residence site, as specified in a schedule of the Mining Act 1908.
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/WHDT19220214.2.35.2?query= Morrison

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/WHDT19220517.2.18?query= Morrison

Miners Union
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/WHDT19300712.2.8?query= Morrison

Accident in mine
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/WHDT19310120.2.8?query= Morrison


Happy hunting,

Alan.
Title: Re: Charles Lindsay Morrison b. 1886 , Scotland to New Zealand.
Post by: minniehaha on Monday 19 February 18 08:01 GMT (UK)

Report of the funeral of C. L. MORRISON
….

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/WHDT19311121.2.7?query=charles%20morrison

His obituary:

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/WHDT19311119.2.12?query=charles%20morrison



Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Charles Lindsay Morrison b. 1886 , Scotland to New Zealand.
Post by: Fresh Fields on Monday 19 February 18 08:45 GMT (UK)
ev

As the local Brotherhood of the Druids Lodge were called to attend the funeral, it might be productive to enquire if their records of that time survive. I know of others that have. The Lodge members supported their own, and it is surprising what minutes contain regarding benefits being offered to spouses and children, in times of sudden death, plus address for service. Support often continuing for quite some time.

I would suggest that you GOOGLE the Waihi Museum and enquire using the email address posted on their Contact Us page. They may also have other items on Mr Charles Lindsay MORRISON.

Alan.
Title: Re: Charles Lindsay Morrison b. 1886 , Scotland to New Zealand.
Post by: ev on Monday 19 February 18 11:38 GMT (UK)
Thank you everyone  :)

Loads of information to dissect , it does it not surprise me that Charles was a member of the Masons(as were my grandmother and grandfather).

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1915/7351   Hoye   Jessie   Mary Ethel   NR
1915/22442   Bramble   Alexa Edna Rita   Sarah   NR
Possible two daughters to different mothers  ??? , my grandmother(b. 1910) was named Edna.


ev

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I would suggest that you GOOGLE the Waihi Museum and enquire using the email address posted on their Contact Us page. They may also have other items on Mr Charles Lindsay MORRISON.

Alan.

I'll have a look at that , thanks.
Title: Re: Charles Lindsay Morrison b. 1886 , Scotland to New Zealand.
Post by: minniehaha on Monday 19 February 18 19:13 GMT (UK)
Hello Ev,

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1915/7351   Hoye   Jessie   Mary Ethel   NR
1915/22442   Bramble   Alexa Edna Rita   Sarah   NR
Possible two daughters to different mothers  ??? , my grandmother(b. 1910) was named Edna.


The two girls whose births were illegitimate, are listed as the children of Charles Lindsay Morrison on his WW1 file, so he obviously acknowledged them as being his or at least his responsibility.

Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Charles Lindsay Morrison b. 1886 , Scotland to New Zealand.
Post by: Johnf04 on Monday 19 February 18 19:22 GMT (UK)
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it does it not surprise me that Charles was a member of the Masons(as were my grandmother and grandfather).

The Druids were a different organisation.
Title: Re: Charles Lindsay Morrison b. 1886 , Scotland to New Zealand.
Post by: minniehaha on Monday 19 February 18 19:40 GMT (UK)
This may be about the mother of Alexa Bramble and some of her family........

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/WHDT19081128.2.12?query=sarah%20bramble


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Charles Lindsay Morrison b. 1886 , Scotland to New Zealand.
Post by: minniehaha on Monday 19 February 18 20:15 GMT (UK)
And here is some information about daughter Jessie, born 1915........

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/WHDT19320112.2.7?query=jessie%20morrison

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/WHDT19340313.2.7?query=jessie%20hoye

Public notice of thanks from Mr. & Mrs. C. Morrison about their daughter Jessie.

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/WHDT19310519.2.24.2?query=jessie%20morrison


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Charles Lindsay Morrison b. 1886 , Scotland to New Zealand.
Post by: ev on Tuesday 20 February 18 10:04 GMT (UK)
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The Druids were a different organisation.

My apologies to the Druids , just shows my lack of knowledge on the subject.

Minniehaha , I do wonder if Sarah Bramble married , possible death in 1961 age 77.


ev

Title: Re: Charles Lindsay Morrison b. 1886 , Scotland to New Zealand.
Post by: Lucy2 on Tuesday 20 February 18 10:40 GMT (UK)
Hi Ev

I have some information for you, re: Sarah BRAMBLE ... will post it shortly.

   ~  Lu
Title: Re: Charles Lindsay Morrison b. 1886 , Scotland to New Zealand.
Post by: Lucy2 on Tuesday 20 February 18 12:35 GMT (UK)
Sarah BRAMBLE  (1883 - 1961)  :

Sarah BRAMBLE, born Hampshire, was the daughter of Sarah (nee BENNETT ?) and Joseph BRAMBLE.   She arrived in New Zealand as an infant with her parents and several siblings.
[Sophie BRAMBLE, (married A.J. STAPLETON) referred to in the wedding article link posted earlier, was her NZ-born sister.]

Sarah BRAMBLE remained a spinster and died aged 77 years in 1961, as you found in the listing.  She was the birth mother of Alexa Edna Rita BRAMBLE.

Obviously it is difficult to know exactly under what circumstances Alexa BRAMBLE came to be a part of the Charles L. MORRISON family ?   Alexa BRAMBLE's birth > 14 April 1915 > was registered at Auckland, as was the birth (5 June 1915) of Jessie HOYE (d/o Mary Ethel, later MORRISON) some seven weeks later.

Of most interest perhaps, is that Sarah BRAMBLE did have a relationship with her daughter Alexa, and Alexa in turn, was acknowledged by at least two of Sarah's  siblings.
[The 1927 Will of Joseph BRAMBLE bequeaths a third share each of his real and personal property to his sisters Flora Ann BRAMBLE and Sarah BRAMBLE and his niece, Alexa BRAMBLE.
The 1947 Will of Flora Ann BRAMBLE, names "my sister Sarah BRAMBLE, spinster of Glen Eden and, my niece Alexa Edna Rita SORENSEN, single woman of Thames", as executrices.]

The following is the link to the Will (Probate file) of Sarah BRAMBLE (it also names a grandchild).
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSLH-MSJY-R?i=205&cat=2240878

   ~  Lu                                                                 continues next > >

Title: Re: Charles Lindsay Morrison b. 1886 , Scotland to New Zealand.
Post by: Lucy2 on Tuesday 20 February 18 12:48 GMT (UK)
From Burial Register - Thames :

Totara Memorial Park Cemetery, Thames

BRAMBLE - Sarah - 77 years
Buried :  4 September 1961
Anglican - born England

Block :  79   Plot: 3
Purchased by :  Mrs A. SORENSEN, Alfred Street, Thames


   ~  Lu
                                                            some more to follow  > >



Title: Re: Charles Lindsay Morrison b. 1886 , Scotland to New Zealand.
Post by: Lucy2 on Tuesday 20 February 18 13:07 GMT (UK)
Sarah BRAMBLE, (despite her child apparently having been born in Auckland in 1915), resided prior to, up until about 1938, at the settlement of Waitekauri  (Waikato district) which was about less than 10 miles or so from Waihi, where the MORRISONs lived.
According to electoral rolls, a number of BRAMBLE siblings were also living at or near Waitekauri.       
From 1946 Sarah lived with her spinster sister, Flora at Glen Eden, Auckland.   Flora died there in 1957 and it may have been about this time that Sarah returned to Thames (Waikato) where Alexa was then living. 

-----

To follow is info for Jessie HOYE (b. 1915 - later known as Jessie MORRISON) :

    ~ Lu
Title: Re: Charles Lindsay Morrison b. 1886 , Scotland to New Zealand.
Post by: Lucy2 on Tuesday 20 February 18 13:21 GMT (UK)
... the informaton I've given here for Sarah BRAMBLE came from a number of sources, but whilst I was searching, I came across a "family tree" (@ ancestry website).
Somewhat ironically it was the "HOY family tree" although it seems to have no connection at all to HOYE (as in Mary Ethel w/o Charles L. MORRISON).   ;D 
Rather the connection seems to be to the BRAMBLE family - in particular the union of Sophie BRAMBLE and A.J. STAPLETON (m. 1908).

The "tree" is not of any importance at all to your MORRISON search, but it does have a rather lovely photo of Sarah BRAMBLE and her daughter Alexa (just in case you're interested).

   ~  Lu
Title: Re: Charles Lindsay Morrison b. 1886 , Scotland to New Zealand.
Post by: Lucy2 on Tuesday 20 February 18 13:34 GMT (UK)
Jessie HOYE -- aka Jessie MORRISON :

Below are details > Waihi Cemetery > for Jessie CARTER (d. 2003) and her husband Edward Alan James* CARTER (d. 1993) :

[*  Other records - including marriage in 1940 - show his names as Allan Edward James CARTER.  ]

http://property.hauraki-dc.govt.nz/cemetery/by_surname.asp

NZ BDM - Death Index (online) has >
2003 / 23517 - CARTER - Jessie - date of birth =  5 June 1915

Electoral rolls show that there may have been two sons of the union (i.e. possible children sharing a common address).    [Neil Henry Charles CARTER also on the Waihi Cemetery database (d. 1999) is possibly a son ? ]

   ~  Lu
Title: Re: Charles Lindsay Morrison b. 1886 , Scotland to New Zealand.
Post by: Lucy2 on Tuesday 20 February 18 13:45 GMT (UK)
Alexa Edna Rita BRAMBLE (SORENSEN or SORENSON)  :

1978 and 1981 Electoral rolls - Auckland - Otahuhu

FISHER - Alexa Edna Rita -  at 59 Waipuna Road
... also a James, pensioner at same address in 1978 - possibly husband ? 

And cremation record here >                                                                                   

https://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/cemeteries/Pages/RecordDetails.aspx?recordId=0x9EE620F8024D606D67F7D55AAFA4ECD0

NZ BDM - death index (online) has >
1996 - FISHER - Alexa Edna Rita - date of birth = 14 April 1915

   ~  Lu
Title: Re: Charles Lindsay Morrison b. 1886 , Scotland to New Zealand.
Post by: minniehaha on Tuesday 20 February 18 16:36 GMT (UK)
Hello Ev,

I have just sent 6 newspaper death notices to you by PM for Jessie CARTER nee Hoye, known as Morrison.

There were 4 children.

Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Charles Lindsay Morrison b. 1886 , Scotland to New Zealand.
Post by: minniehaha on Tuesday 20 February 18 17:20 GMT (UK)
Death notices (5) together with cemetery details in respect of Jessie's daughter Janet & son-in-law sent by PM.........


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Charles Lindsay Morrison b. 1886 , Scotland to New Zealand.
Post by: ev on Tuesday 20 February 18 17:40 GMT (UK)
Lucy2 and minniehaha  :)

Thank you for the further information , I'm going to have to sit down and put it all together.
My mother says some of the family visited the Morrison's in NZ and some of the Morrison's came to Scotland as students.


ev
Title: Re: Charles Lindsay Morrison b. 1886 , Scotland to New Zealand.
Post by: ev on Tuesday 27 February 18 17:15 GMT (UK)
From the back
Peter Morrison, Margaret, William, Mary, Charles, Edward
front row
David , granny Rachel Morrison(nee Tawse) , James , Anne.

David married Jane Luke
William married Marjorie Wills(dentist , went to Ireland)
Edward married Jean Greig
Mary married David McRobbie
Ann married Frank Henderson
Peter married Agnes(Forbes King) Mitchell
Charles married Mary(Hoye) in New Zealand
Margaret married James Mcintosh - went to South Africa in 1919.


ev