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Title: 1939 Electoral Role look up
Post by: VicInIbstock on Sunday 18 February 18 21:25 GMT (UK)
I'm on the look out for an address where a local WW2 casualty lived before the war. Stanley Harold Shilcock married a Joan Mildred Willsdon in 1939 and I believe they lived at 6 Salmondsbury Cottages Bourton on the Water but would appreciate it if someone could confirm that. Stanley was with the 4th Bn Oxford & Bucks Light Infantry when he was killed on the 30th May 1940.

Thanks.
Title: Re: 1939 Electoral Role look up
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 18 February 18 22:25 GMT (UK)
Have you checked the 1939 register which is available on FindMyPast
Title: Re: 1939 Electoral Role look up
Post by: groom on Sunday 18 February 18 22:33 GMT (UK)
I'm on the look out for an address where a local WW2 casualty lived before the war. Stanley Harold Shilcock married a Joan Mildred Willsdon in 1939 and I believe they lived at 6 Salmondsbury Cottages Bourton on the Water but would appreciate it if someone could confirm that. Stanley was with the 4th Bn Oxford & Bucks Light Infantry when he was killed on the 30th May 1940.

Thanks.

Have you seen the CWGC?

SHILCOCK STANLEY HAROLD
Private
5387125
Thursday, May 30, 1940
Age 21
HOTTON WAR CEMETERY
Oxford and Bucks Light Infantry
United Kingdom

https://www.cwgc.org/search-results?term=Stanley%2BHarold%2BShilcock%2B&name=Stanley%2BHarold%2BShilcock%2B&fullname=Stanley%2BHarold%2BShilcock%2B
Title: Re: 1939 Electoral Role look up
Post by: [Ray] on Monday 19 February 18 19:40 GMT (UK)
Hi

The "1939" ROLL contains data outside(after) 1939.

Like all rolls, on the initial day of reckoning,
if the person is there then they are recorded.
If they are not there, then their name does not appear.
Changes of name of those recorded are noted.

Why not get a short-term sign-up to FindMyPast(1939)?

Ray


Title: Re: 1939 Electoral Role look up
Post by: groom on Monday 19 February 18 19:48 GMT (UK)
They married in the Dec quarter of 1939, so probably won't appear together in the 1939 Register on Find My Past which was taken at end of September.

Marriages Dec 1939   
Shilcock    Stanley H    Willsdon   
Willsdon    Joan M P    Shilcock   
N.Cotswold    6a   2026

If you are looking for them in the electoral roles, they probably wouldn't appear together until 1940, and if he was already in the army, he may not be listed.
Title: Re: 1939 Electoral Role look up
Post by: [Ray] on Monday 19 February 18 19:56 GMT (UK)
Hi

If he had already joined up then he wouldn't appear.

Did they marry while he was on leave?

Ray
Title: Re: 1939 Electoral Role look up
Post by: VicInIbstock on Monday 19 February 18 20:27 GMT (UK)
Thanks all. I have found Joan with her married name on the 1939 register as I have access to FindMyPast, I couldn't see Stanley listed at the address but she is listed as a widow which all backs up Ray's comment - I'd always wrongly assumed it was like a census.

Ideally I'd have like to find Stanleys pre-war Occupation and DoB, the latter I can get by ordering a copy of his birth certificate. The former may be on his army record, I've yet to order any of these and therefore don't know what they tell a none relative.

Thanks all for the useful insight, as we've come to expect from the great people who frequent this forum. 8)
Title: Re: 1939 Electoral Role look up
Post by: groom on Monday 19 February 18 20:37 GMT (UK)
As you have access to FindMyPast we can mention it!  ;) ;)

It seems odd to me that she is down as a widow on there as it was taken in September 1939, before she even married Stanley. Was it a second marriage for her?
Title: Re: 1939 Electoral Role look up
Post by: [Ray] on Monday 19 February 18 20:40 GMT (UK)
Hi

As he was only "22" when he died then he may not have had ( the chance of ) an "occupation" as we know it.
Other than that was recorded on the marriage cert. (poss "Private"?)

They didn't seem to have had any children?

Ray
ps When you get the cert(s), report back?
Title: Re: 1939 Electoral Role look up
Post by: groom on Monday 19 February 18 20:41 GMT (UK)
The only Stanley Shilcock that comes up on Freebmd is

Births Sep 1918   
Shilcock    Stanley H     mmn Gadsby   
Ashby Z.    7a   113
Title: Re: 1939 Electoral Role look up
Post by: [Ray] on Monday 19 February 18 20:48 GMT (UK)
Hi
 
1918 that looks like him

Joan [ 1939 original (ie unmodified) roll ] says S(ingle) born 19/7/1919

Ray
Title: Re: 1939 Electoral Role look up
Post by: groom on Monday 19 February 18 20:55 GMT (UK)
By cross-referencing his parents were Harold Shilcock and Agnes C Gadsby.

Moderator comment: 1939 register details removed, you may only post information from a free search.
Title: Re: 1939 Electoral Role look up
Post by: VicInIbstock on Monday 19 February 18 21:02 GMT (UK)
Will report back and thanks for the heads up on the marriage certificate - why didn't I think of that.

Watching the film is very poignant but as Stanley was the third local lad to fall at Dunkirk, it makes the story even more so. Their stories must be told.
Title: Re: 1939 Electoral Role look up
Post by: VicInIbstock on Monday 19 February 18 21:04 GMT (UK)
By cross-referencing his parents were Harold Shilcock and Agnes C Gadsby.

Moderator comment: 1939 register details removed, you may only post information from a free search.

I like the way it's described as a Drapers & Grocers, it's still the only shop in a very small village, I suspect his parents were masters of all trades.
Title: Re: 1939 Electoral Role look up
Post by: groom on Monday 19 February 18 21:33 GMT (UK)
Perhaps Stanley worked for his father.

I wonder how he met up with Joan who lived over 70 miles away?
Title: Re: 1939 Electoral Role look up
Post by: AnthonyPeace on Wednesday 13 January 21 15:30 GMT (UK)
Afternoon, sorry to jump on your post.

I'm trying to find information about a Stanley Harold Shilcock, service number 5387125.
He was my grandma's brother, so my Great Uncle.
Just wondering if you have any leads that could help me? I saw you mention a video about local men who had fought in WW2.

Thank you so much for any help you can give.