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Title: John Merry born Approx 1822/24 Newland Gloucestershire
Post by: heddwch on Sunday 18 February 18 22:27 GMT (UK)
Please could someone help
I am researching the parents and siblings of John Merry  born Newland Gloucestershire
Resided at Clearwell  Occupations    MIner and Engine Driver
His first marriage was in 1845 the second 1858
He Died  1884 
 I have his marriage certificate but there is blank space for his fathers name and occupation
So have hit a brick wall.

Many thanks

Heddwch
Title: Re: John Merry born Approx 1822/24 Newland Gloucestershire
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 18 February 18 22:48 GMT (UK)
Is he this 1841 entry?  The absence of a fathers name on his marriage cert would suggest he was illegit whereas this entry appears to have a father

HO107 Piece 347 Book 1 Folio 7 Page 11
Title: Re: John Merry born Approx 1822/24 Newland Gloucestershire
Post by: emeltom on Monday 19 February 18 08:07 GMT (UK)
The Forest of Dean site has a baptism in Welsh Bicknor (about 6 miles from Newland) for a John Merry on 23 February 1823, the illegitimate son of Ann, a spinster.

Emeltom
Title: Re: John Merry born Approx 1822/24 Newland Gloucestershire
Post by: heddwch on Monday 19 February 18 11:17 GMT (UK)
Many thanks Emeltom for your reply. I have tried to get on the Forest of Dean Site and requested my password but to no avail no replys.   
Carole W please can you let me know what the information is on your reply as I am unable to access it.
Cheers
Heddwch
Title: Re: John Merry born Approx 1822/24 Newland Gloucestershire
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 19 February 18 11:55 GMT (UK)
1841 for Arlingham Gloucester - all surname Merry although originally transcribed as Marry.  All born in county

John 65
John 20
Thomas 11
Mary 50
Elizabeth 13
Ref as in earlier reply

I think Emeltom’s find is more likely to be him
Title: Re: John Merry born Approx 1822/24 Newland Gloucestershire
Post by: heddwch on Monday 19 February 18 12:05 GMT (UK)
Thank you so much Carole

Kind regards
Heddwch
Title: Re: John Merry born Approx 1822/24 Newland Gloucestershire
Post by: Capetown on Monday 19 February 18 12:06 GMT (UK)
The Forest of Dean transcript has the first marriage down as John THERRY bachelor, Miner and Mary Ann GOULDEN - at Newland - 25 October 1845.

Witnesses: John BUFFEY and Mark of HARPER.

Marriage on Ancestry - the second witness  Rhoda HARPER

1841 Census, Newland

Clearwell

William HARPER - 50
Mary HARPER - 80
Emily HARPER - 24
Arena?: HARPER - 16
Rhoda HARPER - 12

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Had a look at Ancestry - and think possibly this is John MERRY aged 15 - and a Miner, : Dean Forest, Ross, District 3 - Page 7 of 8  (Clay Lane)  : Resigration District: COLEFORD
John MERRY says on the 1861, census he was born Coleford


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Possible death of his mother: Ann MERRY - 14 July 1832, aged 45, Welsh Bicknor
Title: Re: John Merry born Approx 1822/24 Newland Gloucestershire
Post by: emeltom on Monday 19 February 18 12:21 GMT (UK)
I think this is more likely to be John in 1841

HO107/364/12/F28/p1
Clay Lane End, Dean Forest
Thomas Nash, Iron Miner, wife Charlotte plus 7 children
John Merry 15 Iron Miner Born in County

Emeltom
Title: Re: John Merry born Approx 1822/24 Newland Gloucestershire
Post by: Capetown on Monday 19 February 18 13:12 GMT (UK)
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On the Forest of Dean : 1841 Census Search

Surname: MERRY
First name: Anne
Aged: 40
Place: Coleford
Box : 3
Piece : 365/3


?as yet can't find on Ancestry
Title: Re: John Merry born Approx 1822/24 Newland Gloucestershire
Post by: heddwch on Monday 19 February 18 13:14 GMT (UK)
Thank you again
Yes  I have the marriage and the 1841 Census  in Clay lane End
I did check out the John Merry born 1823 Welsh Bicknor but its the incorrect one according to future census`s
So back to the drawing board
Am so grateful for all your help

Heddwch