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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cheshire => Topic started by: a chesters on Monday 19 February 18 03:17 GMT (UK)
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Seeking help with this person.
I have Ann Okele married to Thomas Moseley, 23 May 1822 at Davenham Cheshire.
The information I have is that he was baptised 1 Jan 1814 at Church Minsull, Cheshire.
His parents are William Moseley, born 1770, at Minsull, Cheshire, and Elizabeth Hassall, born about 1778 at Chester, Cheshire. At this stage, I do not know her birth year.
I then have Ann Okell married to Thomas Moseley 17 May 1822, at Moulton, Cheshire.
His parents are Thomas Moseley, baptised 5 March 1769 at Acton, Cheshire, and Ann Breeze, born about 1777 in Bartomly, Cheshire. She is born about 1803
Just to add to my confusion, William (1770) and Thomas (1769) are brothers, with parents Robert Moseley, baptised 23 Feb 1740 at Acton, and Ann Manley born about 1742 in Cheshire.
Due to the similarity of the names, and the marriages both in May 1822, I am wondering if there has been a mix up, and Ann Okell/Okele is the same person, married to one of the Thomas Moseley’s. If so, which one?
Any assistance in sorting this out would be very gratefully accepted
A Chesters
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Ann was a minor and a licence for the marriage was issued on the 17 May.
The actual marriage took place 22 May so one and the same person.
If you have access to FindMyPast you can view both records. ;)
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The Cheshire Parish register has Thomas aged 24 so born about 1798
Ann was 19 so born about 1803.
The curate was George Okell, was he a relation?
http://cprdb.csc.liv.ac.uk/
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The Okells seem to have been a well known family around the area, a couple or so of my ancestors wills were either witnessed by the Okells or they were witnesses in the mid to late 1800s.
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Okell's is still the major brewer on the Isle of Man ;D
So just a note: Okell rhymes with oak ;)
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So just a note: Okell rhymes with oak
The woman who replaced a beloved headmistress when I was in the 2nd year of grammar school (in Cheshire) was called Miss Okell. I have to say she was not well liked and was, apparently, chosen as she was an old girl of the school. We're talking 1954 here, and I doubt headteachers of state schools are chosen on that criteria now.
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I'm a bit confused here.
You have Thomas Bapt 1814?
1851/1861 Thomas is born c 1801 Betchton/Birchton
1871 c 1800 Landbach (Sandbach)
THOS Moseley
Baptism Date: 28 Dec 1800 Sandbach ( birth 28 Nov 1800)
Parents THOS/ANN
Thomas was buried 1 Oct 1875 Wybunbury age 75
1841 Thomas Parents are under MORLEY on Anc.
1851 Ann Moseley is born c 1774 Bartomly (sic) and a Widow. Unm Son and Daug are with her.
Son John and Family are next door.
Ann OKELL was likely Bapt 8 JUL 1803 Davenham to PETER/MARY
Peter married Mary JACKSON 17 April 1803
Trish :)
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Thank you all for your input.
roinora: Thank you for that information. I will have to get to the library to check that out, as I do not have FindMyPast at home. At this stage I am just trying to sort out the two of them.
LizzieW: You are very probably correct, as I have just realised that a different branch has an Okel involved, in Staffordshire.
KG: I would never have known how to pronounce it, other than as spelt.
trish1120: I can fully understand your confusion, that being the reason for the post. I was thinking that the records had got mixed up, with the two Thomas Moseley's.
I will have to go through the records again, with a closer eye to the people next door, as I had not noticed that. Thank you for pointing that out.
I had not followed up on the Okele/Olell side too closely as yet, as I was following the Moseley lines.
Again, many thanks to all, for your help and interest.
A Chesters
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So just a note: Okell rhymes with oak
The woman who replaced a beloved headmistress when I was in the 2nd year of grammar school (in Cheshire) was called Miss Okell. I have to say she was not well liked and was, apparently, chosen as she was an old girl of the school. We're talking 1954 here, and I doubt headteachers of state schools are chosen on that criteria now.
My friend went to the same school!! I still have contact with my friend (we lived 4 doors away from each other). She comes out to Switzerland once a year and when I once mentioned Miss Okell, she said something to the same effect.
I was at a school on the "other side of the hill" ;D
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I see you come from Sale, was it Sale Grammar for Girls you went to? My husband went to the boys school which has now been demolished and the land sold for housing - against a specific clause in the original sale of the land which said it had to be used for educational purposes - the school is now mixed with the girls school, whether it's on the same site or another one, I have no idea.
Alternatively, if Altrincham Grammar for Girls was at the top of the hill, the other side could have been the bottom of the hill, Culceth Hall. My best friend's sister went there as she didn't pass her 11+.
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I went to Culcheth Hall and Joan to Altrincham Grammar. Hence "Miss Okell"!! I attended a little private school on Broad Road, Sale, run by the Churchills and then went on to Culcheth in 1949. I was a fidget and Miss Churchil thought it would be good for me at Culcheth as they had lots of sport in their curriculum.
Sale Grammar has a lot of photograps from years gone by on their new Website.
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I remember you mentioning in the distant past, that you had gone to Culcheth Hall, did it stop you fidgeting? I'll look at the Sale Grammar website, I might find a photo of my husband and his brothers, none of whom were there at the same time. His half brother was there for 5 years, then his brother was there for 5 years, then my husband went and was there for 7 years (through the upper 6th).
As you are 2 years younger than me, I wonder if you knew Geraldine L******, who lived in Lymm, she was the sister of my best friend. I've not put her full name as I imagine she is still alive, but I'm sure there were not many Geraldines. Is your friend Joan the same age as you, I can't remember any Joan's in my school year.