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Title: "Sarnau Bach" Nr Llangeitho
Post by: Huwcyn on Wednesday 21 February 18 15:42 GMT (UK)
I'd be very grateful if anyone could find out anything about an "Evans" family who lived here around 200 years ago. This would include a David (Born circa 1805) , his father Evan, a wife Elizabeth (also Evans prior to marriage) , a daughter Mary and a son , probably also Evan.
Title: Re: "Sarnau Bach" Nr Llangeitho
Post by: osprey on Wednesday 21 February 18 16:34 GMT (UK)
possible for Evan senior in 1841

Sarne Fach, Llanbadarn y Croyddin Upper, HO107/1374/5 folio 7 pg 7
Evan Evans 60 farmer
Anne 60
John 35
Ann 10?
Mary Howels 20 servant

map for Sarnau Fawr, Sarnau Fach is a little to the east
https://historicplacenames.rcahmw.gov.uk/placenames/recordedname/f0e67e19-b812-4c98-afe1-40a62cbf1ce8
Title: Re: "Sarnau Bach" Nr Llangeitho
Post by: hanes teulu on Wednesday 21 February 18 18:11 GMT (UK)
Check welshnewspapers online for "Sarnau bach".

There's a lengthy tribute to "E. S. Evans, Ysw, mab David, ac wyr i'r diweddar hybarch Evan Evans, Sarnau Bach ..."
(Gladgarwr, 2 Feb 1867)
Title: Re: "Sarnau Bach" Nr Llangeitho
Post by: Huwcyn on Wednesday 21 February 18 18:36 GMT (UK)
Diolch yn fawr iawn/Thank you very much.
Title: Re: "Sarnau Bach" Nr Llangeitho
Post by: hanes teulu on Wednesday 21 February 18 18:49 GMT (UK)
Croeso.
It was quite an interesting article.
Title: Re: "Sarnau Bach" Nr Llangeitho
Post by: osprey on Wednesday 21 February 18 18:55 GMT (UK)
wonder about this entry for David in 1841?

Llaun, Llanbadarn y Croyddin Upper HO107/1374/5 folio 5 pg 3
David Evans 35 ag lab
John 8
Evan 5
Elizabeth 35
Mary 11
Jane 2
Title: Re: "Sarnau Bach" Nr Llangeitho
Post by: Huwcyn on Wednesday 21 February 18 19:00 GMT (UK)
That's him. He emigrated to the United States in 1844, and I'm helping a descendant. The American family seem to have mixed up 'Llanbadarn Odwyn' and 'Llanbadarn y Creuddyn' , and for the wife, 'Llanarthen' (Carmarthen) with what I think is Llangeitho.
 
Title: Re: "Sarnau Bach" Nr Llangeitho
Post by: hanes teulu on Wednesday 21 February 18 19:11 GMT (UK)
Possible?

1870 U.S Census
David Evans, 65, miner, born Wales
Elizabeth Evans, 62, born Wales
Miles Evans, 28, born Ohio

The are living in Tallmadge, Summit County, Ohio - a suburb of Akron. The Gladgawr article refers to Evan and parents arriving 1844 and parents settling in Akron (although Miles' birth year is 1842 according to census)
Title: Re: "Sarnau Bach" Nr Llangeitho
Post by: hanes teulu on Wednesday 21 February 18 19:21 GMT (UK)
FindMyPast baptisms (image)

23 March 1807, David son of Evan Evans of Gilfachgoch by Elizabeth his wife, place Llangeitho, Cardiganshire
Title: Re: "Sarnau Bach" Nr Llangeitho
Post by: Huwcyn on Wednesday 21 February 18 19:29 GMT (UK)
Yes , I'd been considering that. Its quite a way to the south, but its a possibility. Am I right in thinking that Llanbadarn records do not exist in online form ? I'm wary of suggesting dates until I know that I've considered and discounted them.
Title: Re: "Sarnau Bach" Nr Llangeitho
Post by: hanes teulu on Wednesday 21 February 18 19:36 GMT (UK)
FindMyPast has Llanbadarn baptisms on line - cannot see a David Evans that "fits" the 1805 birth/baptism year.

Have deleted remainder of post - not relevant!
Title: Re: "Sarnau Bach" Nr Llangeitho
Post by: osprey on Wednesday 21 February 18 19:48 GMT (UK)
HanesTeulu, where are you finding Llanbadarn Fawr baptisms online from before 1813? I have family from there and I was pretty sure that before 1813 or so, they're not online?

That marriage is rather too early for the David & Elizabeth having children in the 1830s. 

- noticed you've deleted the marriage info!

 
How sure about Elizabeth's maiden name are the family? I can see a couple of possibles in Aberffrwd Calvinistic Methodist for children of David Evans & Elizabeth Jones
John bp 30 Sep 1832, born 2 July 1832
Evan bp 18 Dec 1836, born 18 Oct 1836
But that could be a coincidence, given the less than unusual names.

 :-\
Title: Re: "Sarnau Bach" Nr Llangeitho
Post by: hanes teulu on Wednesday 21 February 18 20:05 GMT (UK)
I was confusing Llanbadarn Fawr, outskirts Aberystwyth with the Parish of Llanbadarn Fawr (Radnorshire).