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Title: Somewhere in Macclesfield
Post by: Ray T on Thursday 22 February 18 13:24 GMT (UK)
There are several pages of these on the 1851 - this is one of the clearer ones!

Nowhere I can think of makes much sense. Any ideas?

Title: Re: Somewhere in Macclesfield
Post by: PaulineJ on Thursday 22 February 18 13:35 GMT (UK)
Well if you had said which piece/ town /folio district then a better guess may be made, but I'd say "Gutters".

Was this HO 107/2159   141-146 by any chance?

In the absence of some geographical context? No Idea
Title: Re: Somewhere in Macclesfield
Post by: groom on Thursday 22 February 18 13:41 GMT (UK)
Which section does it come under - place of residence or where born?
Title: Re: Somewhere in Macclesfield
Post by: MaureeninNY on Thursday 22 February 18 13:48 GMT (UK)
1851
2159/142/8

Newspaper article (1859) refers to James and Elizabeth Matthews as residing in the Gutters,Macclesfield.

Maureen
Title: Re: Somewhere in Macclesfield
Post by: Ray T on Thursday 22 February 18 14:02 GMT (UK)
Well if you had said which piece/ town /folio district then a better guess may be made, but I'd say "Gutters".

Was this HO 107/2159   141-146 by any chance?

In the absence of some geographical context? No Idea

Sorry, I should have said - yes it is.

Everyone else - Thought it looked like "Gutters" (its the house address) but It's somewhere I've never come across in Macc. and it didn't seem appropriate for an "Inspector of Police" in 1851! Must investigate further.

Thanks to all.
Title: Re: Somewhere in Macclesfield
Post by: JenB on Thursday 22 February 18 14:10 GMT (UK)
Waters Green, the lower town. In earlier times this was ‚'The Gutters', a slum area where slaughterhouses, tallow chandlers and other unsavoury activities were located. Open drainage flowed past squalid dwellings into the river Bollin. This part of town was savaged, far beyond other sections of the town by the plague of 1603.

http://www.cc-publishing.co.uk/Archives/silk.html
Title: Re: Somewhere in Macclesfield
Post by: JenB on Thursday 22 February 18 14:19 GMT (UK)
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01lmj/ according to this The Gutters is now Brunswick Street.
Title: Re: Somewhere in Macclesfield
Post by: Kay99 on Thursday 22 February 18 14:26 GMT (UK)
This is Brunswick St http://maps.nls.uk/view/114583450#zoom=5&lat=2092&lon=9494&layers=BT
Title: Re: Somewhere in Macclesfield
Post by: stanmapstone on Thursday 22 February 18 14:28 GMT (UK)
"The place where the deaths occurred is called The Gutters (an area in Macclesfield around Goose Lane) , an unhealthy situation abounding with pigsties, slaughter houses and an accumulation of filth."
https://www.macclesfield-express.co.uk/news/local-news/deaths-cholera-due-living-the-2530735

According to the 1851 Census it was in this area https://www.old-maps.co.uk/#/Map/391797/373759/13/100100

Stan
Title: Re: Somewhere in Macclesfield
Post by: Ray T on Thursday 22 February 18 14:50 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the links. I know this area reasonably well as a G Uncle was the landlord of the Castle Inn -complete with gravestones bearing Latin inscriptions in the beer cellar - for a time in the 1960s.

I see from the Old Maps link that the police office was attached to the rear of the Town Hall, which would accord with the 1871 when his family was living at Church Side and he had risen to "Superintendent of Police". I think the modern police station is still on Brunswick St.