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Title: Coulsdon murder 1784.
Post by: solidrock on Friday 23 February 18 01:42 GMT (UK)

Any info please.

COULSDON - 19th February 1784 - 'George Cooper buried. This child's throat was cut with a razor by old Dame Kerrill in a fit of lunacy on 4th Feb, 1784. (Coulsdon Parish register)
The Kerrill family was well-known locally for very many years but no further information has been found about this sad incident.

Title: Re: Coulsdon murder 1784.
Post by: groom on Friday 23 February 18 10:20 GMT (UK)

Tiny bit of information here

http://www.kerrell.org/coulsdon.htm

Title: Re: Coulsdon murder 1784.
Post by: lizdb on Friday 23 February 18 11:41 GMT (UK)

Shame the burial doesn't give an age

I wonder if he is this George Cooper

Baptism
Coulsdon 1779
George Cooper son of John and Elizabeth was baptized 5th December

Title: Re: Coulsdon murder 1784.
Post by: ShaunJ on Friday 23 February 18 12:55 GMT (UK)

Quite chilling to read the register entry:

Title: Re: Coulsdon murder 1784.
Post by: trish1120 on Friday 23 February 18 13:16 GMT (UK)

Possible Burial;
ELIZABETH Kerrill 02 Jul 1785, St John the Evangelist, Coulsdon

2 children Bapt same Church to William/Elizabeth;
WILLIAM 27 Sep 1744
MARY  01 Dec 1745

Quite a few records for the surname and variants on FreeREG.

That is a beautiful painting on that site of the Old Smithy.

Trish :)

Title: Re: Coulsdon murder 1784.
Post by: solidrock on Saturday 24 February 18 00:12 GMT (UK)

Thanks for all your replies, I have all this information but nothing about what happened to old Dame Kerrill, was she ever convicted?

Title: Re: Coulsdon murder 1784.
Post by: groom on Saturday 24 February 18 00:30 GMT (UK)

Quote from: solidrock on Saturday 24 February 18 00:12 GMT (UK)

Thanks for all your replies, I have all this information but nothing about what happened to old Dame Kerrill, was she ever convicted?

Maybe not as it looks as if she died the following year

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ELIZABETH Kerrill 02 Jul 1785, St John the Evangelist, Coulsdon

Title: Re: Coulsdon murder 1784.
Post by: solidrock on Saturday 24 February 18 01:15 GMT (UK)

Possible marriage William 1713-1782 and Elizabeth 1724-1785

William Kerrell  m  Elizabeth Chilman.     05 Oct 1743,  Old Church,Saint Pancras.

Maybe George Cooper

George Cooper. baptised 05 Dec 1779, St John the Evangelist, Coulsdon. parents John and Elizabeth.

Title: Re: Coulsdon murder 1784.
Post by: Lensmeister on Saturday 24 February 18 07:58 GMT (UK)

I worked at Coulsdon South Station for a number of years. Opposite was Cane Hill Mental Hospital. It maybe worth contacting the Croydon local studies library to find out if they records that may help locate info.