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Title: O'Sullivans from Gortnatona, Kilcummin, Killarney, Co Kerry
Post by: MrsMWales on Friday 23 February 18 13:57 GMT (UK)
Hi Guys,
I'm new to this and have hit a brick wall researching my Irish side of the family.
What I know is that my Grandmother, Mary O'sullivan was a farmers daughter from Gortnatona, she had three sisters Eileen (or Helen), Hanna (Hannah?) and Margaret. She was born in circa 1918.
Her father was Edward O'sullivan of Gortnatona, who I believe was involved with the IRA/Cumann na mBan. I believe his parents were Edward & Ellen, but I have lots of blanks to fill in!
I have no idea of my great grandfathers wifes name or maiden name?
Any info or points in the right direction gratefully received!
 ::)
Title: Re: O'Sullivans from Gortnatona, Kilcummin, Killarney, Co Kerry
Post by: heywood on Friday 23 February 18 14:08 GMT (UK)
Hello and welcome.

Here are two useful sites which are free to search. The Irish census 1901 and 1911.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/

Irish Genealogy https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/

It is straightforward to use but you have to solve a captcha puzzle.

Heywood
Title: Re: O'Sullivans from Gortnatona, Kilcummin, Killarney, Co Kerry
Post by: heywood on Friday 23 February 18 14:10 GMT (UK)
Here is 1911 census for Edward, I think.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Kerry/Kilcummin/Gortnatona/270396/
Title: Re: O'Sullivans from Gortnatona, Kilcummin, Killarney, Co Kerry
Post by: hallmark on Friday 23 February 18 14:12 GMT (UK)
https://www.johngrenham.com/c_parish/c_parish_main.php?civilparishid=1134&county=&civilparish=Kilcummin
Title: Re: O'Sullivans from Gortnatona, Kilcummin, Killarney, Co Kerry
Post by: hallmark on Friday 23 February 18 14:13 GMT (UK)
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0673  Kilcummin
Title: Re: O'Sullivans from Gortnatona, Kilcummin, Killarney, Co Kerry
Post by: hallmark on Friday 23 February 18 14:15 GMT (UK)
The years covered by the release of the historic Indexes to the Civil Records of Births, Marriages and Deaths are:

Births: 1864 to 1916

Marriages: 1845* to 1941

Deaths: 1864 to 1966

*non-Roman Catholic Marriages are recorded from 1845,

Roman Catholic Marriages are recorded from 1864
Title: Re: O'Sullivans from Gortnatona, Kilcummin, Killarney, Co Kerry
Post by: Radcliff on Sunday 25 February 18 09:23 GMT (UK)
Death registered Molahiffe,Kilarney Co Kerry
the age isn't consistent with the census,
Edward O'Sullivan,married,farmer,aged 69 years,December 11th 1911
 his son Edward of Church View,farmer
death registered on the June 6th 1913 ?
died from injuries from an accident with his horse,
Title: Re: O'Sullivans from Gortnatona, Kilcummin, Killarney, Co Kerry
Post by: Radcliff on Sunday 25 February 18 09:30 GMT (UK)
Edward Sullivan
birth registered 11th September 1893
abode Church View
Father Edward a farmer
mother Ellen nee Daly
Title: Re: O'Sullivans from Gortnatona, Kilcummin, Killarney, Co Kerry
Post by: Radcliff on Sunday 25 February 18 09:38 GMT (UK)
Marriage
February 17th 1916,
Roman Catholic Chapel,Kilcummin,Molahiffe
Edward Sullivan,full age
bachelor,
farmer
of Church View,
Father Edward Sullivan,deceased,farmer
Ellen Ryan,full age
spinster,
farmer
of Gurt Kilcummin
Father John Ryan a farmer
witnessed by John Connor and Nora Duggan
Title: Re: O'Sullivans from Gortnatona, Kilcummin, Killarney, Co Kerry
Post by: Radcliff on Sunday 25 February 18 10:06 GMT (UK)
Edwards parents
March 1st 1892
Roman Catholic Chapel Kilcummin
Edmund Sullivan
full age,bachelor farmer
abode Not sure Masteraghea?
father Edmund Sullivan a  Cottier
Ellen Daly,full age,spinster
abode Church View,
father William Daly a farmer,
both fathers are noted as living
witnessed by Daniel Daly and David Fleming
Title: Re: O'Sullivans from Gortnatona, Kilcummin, Killarney, Co Kerry
Post by: Radcliff on Sunday 25 February 18 10:33 GMT (UK)
National archives
Edward Sullivan
17th May 1913,administration with the will and estate
of Edward Sullivan late of Gortnatona,County Kerry Farmer
who died December 11th 1911
Granted at Cork to Ellen Sullivan widow
effects £303.00
Title: Re: O'Sullivans from Gortnatona, Kilcummin, Killarney, Co Kerry
Post by: dathai on Sunday 25 February 18 12:17 GMT (UK)
1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Kerry/Kilcummin/Gortnatona/1418590/

probably trying for the pension in 1911 hence the jump in age

note on marriage cert Edmund was a widower
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1892/10629/5872533.pdf
Title: Re: O'Sullivans from Gortnatona, Kilcummin, Killarney, Co Kerry
Post by: MrsMWales on Tuesday 27 February 18 08:37 GMT (UK)
Thanks everyone for your help so far! Wow, was not expecting such a quick & helpful response!!

Can anyone help me find Mary E O'Sullivans birth record? (or any of her siblings Margaret, Eileen (or helen) & Hanna (Hannah?))

V much appreciated!!!