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Title: Tower Hamlets workhouse records 1862
Post by: Alexj on Saturday 24 February 18 14:33 GMT (UK)
Hi

I have just discovered via the free weekend on Ancestry that my Ancestors from Germany ended up in the Tower Hamlets , Stepney workhouse.

Name:
M Ann Sandman
Admission Age:28
Discharge Age:28
Record Type:
Admission and Discharge 
Birth Date:
abt 1834
Admission Date:
4 Mar 1862
Admission Place:
Tower Hamlets, Stepney, London, England
Discharge Date:
26 Nov 1862
Discharge Place:
Tower Hamlets, Stepney, London, England

Her son George Sandmann age 4 is with her in the Workhouse but I do not know where her husband also named George is.
I have tried to access the Ancestry files online to see any documents regarding to them but to no avail. I just get a standard screen.
Am I doing something wrong or is it the scanned image is not available online just in text.

Any help gratefully received sad they ended up in a workhouse the husband was a German sugar baker from Hannover.

Best Regards

Title: Re: Tower Hamlets workhouse records 1862
Post by: iluleah on Saturday 24 February 18 14:39 GMT (UK)
The Ancestry website has two collections of London workhouse records:
The London Workhouse Admission and Discharge Records (1738-1930) are searchable by name.
The Poor Law and Board of Guardian Records, 1430-1930 are more extensive but only provide browsable page images.

The FindMyPast website has workhouse / poor law records for Westminster.
London Metropolitan Archives, 40 Northampton Road, London EC1R OHB. Union records include Guardians' minute books (1836-1926); Financial records 1839-1925; Staff records (1894-1925); etc
Title: Re: Tower Hamlets workhouse records 1862
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 24 February 18 14:44 GMT (UK)
Is this what you are getting  :-\

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01lmx/

When you click View you get a page of rubbish.  I am getting the same if I try browsing these records it just brings up that same page
Title: Re: Tower Hamlets workhouse records 1862
Post by: Alexj on Saturday 24 February 18 14:57 GMT (UK)
Yes Rosie that's what I am getting.

Found the names under the searchable by name section but then when click view getting that rubbish. 
Title: Re: Tower Hamlets workhouse records 1862
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 24 February 18 15:06 GMT (UK)
I have tried browsing going through this page and have tried a few different workhouses some are OK others are bringing up those pages of rubbish.
https://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=60391&path=
Title: Re: Tower Hamlets workhouse records 1862
Post by: Alexj on Saturday 24 February 18 15:13 GMT (UK)
I have emailed Ancestry with this issue but do not expect a quick fix. last time I told them about something wrong took nearly 6 months to put right  ::)
Title: Re: Tower Hamlets workhouse records 1862
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 24 February 18 15:16 GMT (UK)
I also emailed them.  You are right them not doing anything in a hurry, we are having problems with the British phone book database which has been down for a few months now.
Title: Re: Tower Hamlets workhouse records 1862
Post by: LizzieW on Saturday 24 February 18 15:45 GMT (UK)
I had a problem with Ancestry yesterday but I put it down to my laptop which does weird things at times, not opening links on news sites such as BBC News or Sky News and then I have to reboot my laptop.  On Ancestry, I could see the census entries for a name I had put in, but when I went to view the page all I got was a blank page, so I rebooted my laptop but Ancestry still wasn't working.  Eventually, I tried FindMyPast and I could view the pages there so I knew it was Ancestry which had the problem.
Title: Re: Tower Hamlets workhouse records 1862
Post by: jonw65 on Saturday 24 February 18 16:09 GMT (UK)
Name:
M Ann Sandman
Admission Age:28
Discharge Age:28
Record Type:
Admission and Discharge 
Birth Date:
abt 1834
Admission Date:
4 Mar 1862
Admission Place:
Tower Hamlets, Stepney, London, England
Discharge Date:
26 Nov 1862
Discharge Place:
Tower Hamlets, Stepney, London, England

The LMA reference for that is STBG/WH/123/05
Which is Whitechapel Infirmary: Porter's Admission and Discharge Register
14 Feb 1861 - 31 Dec 1862
Title: Re: Tower Hamlets workhouse records 1862
Post by: Alexj on Saturday 24 February 18 16:20 GMT (UK)
Jon

Are you saying they were in the Infirmary not a workhouse?

If yes is it possible to get any images of those records or not.

Many thanks for your help and everyone else for their help. It must have been very hard in those days in Whitechapel 
Title: Re: Tower Hamlets workhouse records 1862
Post by: sugarbakers on Saturday 24 February 18 16:28 GMT (UK)
... but I do not know where her husband also named George is.

George was probably working at Martineau's in Goulston St in the early 1860s. One possibility is that George lost his job in the London refinery (this was the time of the decline-to-almost-zero of sugar refining in the East End) and went off the seek work elsewhere, leaving the family for longer than expected. They are back together again in 1871 in Liverpool where Geo is listed as a warehouseman (possibly sugar), and then in Liverpool in 1881 where Geo is refining again.
Title: Re: Tower Hamlets workhouse records 1862
Post by: Alexj on Saturday 24 February 18 16:33 GMT (UK)
That ties in well in the 1861 census George was living in Goulston st.

Great info many thanks
Title: Re: Tower Hamlets workhouse records 1862
Post by: jonw65 on Saturday 24 February 18 16:41 GMT (UK)
It's the reference given on ancestry, just under the part you quoted.
Which seems to match up to Whitechapel Infirmary in the LMA catalogue.
Whatever it is, one or two pages may be available.
Rosina Appleton, 37, admitted 23 Jan 1862, and with that same reference is here (hopefully!)
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ln0/

John
Title: Re: Tower Hamlets workhouse records 1862
Post by: Alexj on Saturday 24 February 18 16:50 GMT (UK)
Jon

Sadly not there the next pages are unavailable until you get to June 1862 then no more pages available after that sadly

Many thks though maybe Ancestry will make more pages vailable in the future
Title: Re: Tower Hamlets workhouse records 1862
Post by: Mart 'n' Al on Saturday 24 February 18 17:24 GMT (UK)
Alexj, I started a thread on this problem yesterday. There is much more information there.  If you are competent to do so try deleting your cookies. It's not a 100% fix, but I ended up getting access to a lot more than I should have done, but I didn't get access to one particular record I'd never found before so it's back to the library for me.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=788491.msg6440312#msg6440312
Try this for some background.

Martin
Title: Re: Tower Hamlets workhouse records 1862
Post by: jonw65 on Friday 30 March 18 12:20 BST (UK)
I have just discovered via the free weekend on Ancestry that my Ancestors from Germany ended up in the Tower Hamlets , Stepney workhouse.

I have tried to access the Ancestry files online to see any documents regarding to them but to no avail. I just get a standard screen.

In case you don't know, ancestry are having another free weekend. And this time the image is available!
John
Title: Re: Tower Hamlets workhouse records 1862
Post by: Alexj on Friday 30 March 18 13:37 BST (UK)
Many thanks for that John