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Title: richard Merry
Post by: heddwch on Saturday 24 February 18 20:32 GMT (UK)
HI there

I am researching   Richare Merry  born 24th March  1890 Clearwell Goucestershire
He married
Flora Rosemund Anderson Hale   January-February-March Qtr 1913 registered Monmouth
 
Any information regarding the Bride would be most welcome and her family.

There seems to be a few different families with Flora Hale as thier daughter

Many thanks

Heddwch
Title: Re: richard Merry
Post by: PaulineJ on Saturday 24 February 18 20:47 GMT (UK)
Using the 1939 index, flora merry appears to have been born 1895.
Using the gro search.

   

ANDERSON, FLORA       HALE     1895  S Quarter in MONMOUTH  Volume 11A  Page 23
Title: Re: richard Merry
Post by: heddwch on Saturday 24 February 18 21:03 GMT (UK)
Thank you

Heddwch
Title: Re: richard Merry
Post by: PaulineJ on Saturday 24 February 18 22:15 GMT (UK)
Rum family

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:4KSQ-FN2 (1891)
Nora Edith in 1901 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9YM-95J
Nora Edith in 1911 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7PM-T9D

ANDERSON, CAMPBELL  GEORGE     HALE      1886  M Qtr in MONMOUTH  Vol 11A  Page 20
ANDERSON, NORA  EDITH     mmn: RALE      1888  J Quarter in MONMOUTH  Volume 11A  Page 22
ANDERSON, ANNIE  MAY     HALE     1889  S Quarter in NEWPORT MON  Volume 11A  Page 208
ANDERSON, ALEXANDRA       HALE   1890  J Quarter in MONMOUTH  Volume 11A  Page 21   (died v young)

ANDERSON, ALEXANDRINA       HALE     1894  J Quarter in MONMOUTH  Volume 11A  Page 15

RICHARDS, LILIAN  MARY     HALE     1897  D Quarter in MONMOUTH  Volume 11A  Page 14
RICHARDS, THOMAS  HENRY     HALE   1901  M Quarter in MONMOUTH  Volume 11A  Page 15
Title: Re: richard Merry
Post by: Capetown on Sunday 25 February 18 11:16 GMT (UK)

Forest of Dean Family History

Pillowell Methodist

26 November 1913

Nita Rosmond MERRY,

parents: Richard, (occupation: Collier) residence: Yorkely + mother:  Flora Rosamond

Born: 21 July 1913



20 December 1914

Frank Henry MERRY, father: Richard, (occupation: Collier) - residence: Yorkley : mother: Flora Rosamond

born 22 November 1914
Title: Re: richard Merry
Post by: heddwch on Sunday 25 February 18 11:26 GMT (UK)
 Many thanks  for you replys
 Who Is Nora Edith? and what connection to Flora Rosamund  A  Hale  Please
I have checked all the census for Anderson Family the surname  Hale is not menitoned
 Flora is not included in any of the Census

Best wishes

Heddwch
Title: Re: richard Merry
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 25 February 18 12:51 GMT (UK)
I think you may need to purchase that 1913 marriage certificate  :-\
Title: Re: richard Merry
Post by: heddwch on Sunday 25 February 18 12:55 GMT (UK)
Many thanks Rosie think i will have to  but grateful for all the advice

Best wishes
Heddwch
Title: Re: richard Merry
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 25 February 18 13:33 GMT (UK)
FreeBMD has a Marriage Reg June 1883  Monmouth, 11a 51
James ANDERSON/Alley HALE on same page.

The Birth Regs listed are Anderson with Mothers mn as Hale. (by PaulineJ)

The Census 1901/1911 PaulineJ listed seems to be the Family. Looks like Alexandria Richards, formerly Anderson, nee Hale is the Mother of those children.

1896 Marriage FreeBMD, Alexandra Anderson/Thomas Richards on same page.

Trish :)
Title: Re: richard Merry
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 25 February 18 13:51 GMT (UK)
1891 Census
West Dean, Glous
James Anderson, 29
Alexandria Anderson, 27
William H Anderson, 7
Cambell Anderson, 5
Nora E Anderson, 3

I do think you need the M/C as Flora 1895 does not appear on Census with this Family that I can see?

Title: Re: richard Merry
Post by: heddwch on Sunday 25 February 18 14:01 GMT (UK)
Thanks

Flora birth
  Flora  Anderson   born  1895  S Qtr in Monmouth Volume 11A  page 23   mothers maiden name Hale

On the 1911 census she is a boarder  age 15  name Flora
Anderson Occupation  Domestic  with Henry Hale   and wife Mary Ann Hale nee Price

So here name is Flora  she married as Flora  Rosemond  Anderson- Hale

Thanks so much driving me crazy lol


Heddwch 
Title: Re: richard Merry
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 25 February 18 14:05 GMT (UK)
Has to be a connection somewhere I just cant find it yet!

There are 2 Birth Reg Monmouth after the 1913 marriage;
Nita R Merry 1913 and Frank H Merry 1914, Mothers mn Anderson.

Nita R is an unusual name and leads back to that other Family?
Title: Re: richard Merry
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 25 February 18 14:17 GMT (UK)
There is also this 1891 Census

Henry Hale, 44
Mary Ann Hale, 37
Robert Price, 22, Brother in Law
Flora Hale, 5, Daug

Henry/Mary Ann married 1892 but I cant find on GRO Index a Birth for a Flora Hale, Mothers mn Price.

Did they take her in?

Looks possible as next door to the Andersons in 1891 are;
Henry Hale   33
Mary Ann Hale   28

Sorry have to log out here as its 1 am and work tomorrow!

Trish :)

Title: Re: richard Merry
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 25 February 18 14:19 GMT (UK)
FreeBMD has a Marriage Reg June 1883  Monmouth, 11a 51
James ANDERSON/Alley HALE on same page.

No wonder I did not find that one Trish I was looking for Alex*   Well done  ;D
Title: Re: richard Merry
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 25 February 18 14:20 GMT (UK)
It was a fluke Rosie ;D

Got to go, goodnight :)
Title: Re: richard Merry
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 25 February 18 14:29 GMT (UK)
1881 Culcheth Hall, Altrincham
RG11/ 3505 f24 p3

Alley   Hale   Servant   18   bn Coleford, Gloucestershire occ   Domestic Serv (Housemaid)   
Edith   Hale   Servant   16   bn Coleford, Gloucestershire occ   Domestic Serv (Housemaid)
Title: Re: richard Merry
Post by: Ladyhawk on Sunday 25 February 18 14:33 GMT (UK)
There's also this baptism

James Elton Merry bpt 2 May 1918 Newland
Parents: Richard & Flora Rosamund Merry, of Coleford.  Richard was a collier
Gloucestershire, England, Non-Conformist Baptisms Index, 1739-1987

James E Merry  Mother's Maiden Surname:   Anderson-hale
Apr-May-Jun 1918 Monmouth  Volume Number:   11a Page Number:   28

Edit

I think this is her death entry

Flora Merry died age 69 (1894)
Jun 1963 Pontypridd Glamorganshire    Volume:   8b Page:   548
Title: Re: richard Merry
Post by: Ladyhawk on Sunday 25 February 18 15:10 GMT (UK)
Rum family

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:4KSQ-FN2 (1891)
Nora Edith in 1901 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9YM-95J
Nora Edith in 1911 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7PM-T9D

ANDERSON, NORA  EDITH     mmn: RALE      1888  J Quarter in MONMOUTH  Volume 11A  Page 22

1891 Census
West Dean, Glous
James Anderson, 29
Alexandria Anderson, 27
William H Anderson, 7
Cambell Anderson, 5
Nora E Anderson, 3

I do think you need the M/C as Flora 1895 does not appear on Census with this Family that I can see?


For info.

Marriage
28 Dec 1912 St John’s Church Coleford
Ben Powles 24, Collier, Millwall Coleford f Benjamin blacksmith
Norah Edith Anderson 24, waitress Millwall Coleford, f James, collier
Witnesses William Powles and Florence Nash
Title: Re: richard Merry
Post by: Ladyhawk on Sunday 25 February 18 15:26 GMT (UK)

FreeBMD has a Marriage Reg June 1883  Monmouth, 11a 51

James ANDERSON/Alley HALE on same page.

The Birth Regs listed are Anderson with Mothers mn as Hale. (by PaulineJ)

The Census 1901/1911 PaulineJ listed seems to be the Family.

Looks like Alexandria Richards, formerly Anderson, nee Hale is the Mother of those children.

1896 Marriage FreeBMD, Alexandra Anderson/Thomas Richards on same page.


20 Dec 1896 Parkend, St Paul, Gloucestershire, England
Thomas Richards 27 bachelor, collier Mosely Green f John, Collier
Alexandra Anderson 31 widow, Mosely Green father Moses HALE , colliery manager
Witesses, Albert Hale, Elizabeth Ann Hale
Title: Re: richard Merry
Post by: heddwch on Sunday 25 February 18 15:30 GMT (UK)
on the 1911 census which includes Flora  Anderson
States that Henry Hale and Mary Ann Hale   never had children

Ally Hale Marriage  James Anderson  in 1883 ended when he died in 1895  age 35 years   Ally remarried   Thomas Richards    They lived next to Herbert Hale and Mary Ann
Heddwch
Title: Re: richard Merry
Post by: heddwch on Sunday 25 February 18 16:22 GMT (UK)
Just a big thanks for all your help

 Flora lived  with Henry & Mary Ann Hale

next door is her mother with her new husband  Thomas Richards

Flora lived with Henry and Mary Ann until she married Richard Merry

Diolch   Heddwch
Title: Re: richard Merry
Post by: Ladyhawk on Sunday 25 February 18 16:50 GMT (UK)

on the 1911 census which includes Flora  Anderson

States that Henry Hale and Mary Ann Hale   never had children


for info. transcribed a Nora Anderson on family search
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7PM-S2H
and Hora Anderson on Anc*y




Title: Re: richard Merry
Post by: Capetown on Sunday 25 February 18 16:59 GMT (UK)


Forest of Dean records

Marriage: Parkend - 20 December 1896

Thomas RICHARDS - aged 27, bachelor, occupation: Collier
residence: Moseley Green

father: John RICHARDS, Collier
--
Alexandra ANDERSON, aged 31, Widow, residence: Moseley Green

father: Moses HALE, colly. manager

by banns


witnesses: Albert & Elizabeth Ann HALE

Title: Re: richard Merry
Post by: Ladyhawk on Sunday 25 February 18 17:06 GMT (UK)


Forest of Dean records

Marriage: Parkend - 20 December 1896

Thomas RICHARDS - aged 27, bachelor, occupation: Collier
residence: Moseley Green

father: John RICHARDS, Collier
--
Alexandra ANDERSON, aged 31, Widow, residence: Moseley Green

father: Moses HALE, colly. manager

by banns


witnesses: Albert & Elizabeth Ann HALE

 :) details of the marriage have been posted reply 18

Not sure if the 1901 census detail was posted - apologies if I'm duplicating

RG13; Piece: 4921; Folio: 72; Page: 1
Barracks
Henry Hale Head   44 West Dean, Gloucestershire,  contractor in collier
Mary Ann Hale wife   37 Aberdare, Monmouthshire
Robert Price Brother-in-law   22
Flora Hale Daughter  :-\   5

1891c RG12; Piece: 4338; Folio: 127; Page: 17
Henry 33 Mary Ann Hale 26

Henry Hale born c1858 West Dean, Gloucestershire appears to be the son of
Moses Hale & Susan and can be found with parents and siblings on

1881c  RG11; Piece: 5225; Folio: 13; Page: 20
1871c  RG10; Piece: 5299; Folio: 109; Page: 5
1861c  RG 9; Piece: 3983; Folio: 5; Page: 11

Edit for info. marriage

4 Jan 1852 West Dean, Gloucestershire
Moses Hale 22 collier  f Moses, collier
Susan Ann Davis  20 f Richard, collier
He made his mark (x) she signed, res Lane End
Witnesses by Samuel Horr? (x) & Mary HALE (x)

Title: Re: richard Merry
Post by: heddwch on Sunday 25 February 18 17:21 GMT (UK)
Henry Hale and Alexandra (Ally) where siblings 
Title: Re: richard Merry
Post by: heddwch on Sunday 25 February 18 17:23 GMT (UK)
Again Many thanks to all
Have a great Sunday

Diolch Heddwch
Title: Re: richard Merry
Post by: Capetown on Sunday 25 February 18 17:25 GMT (UK)

Forest of Dean Inquests

Gloucestershire Archives Reference: CO4/2/4

An inquisition taken this 29 day of June 1895 at The Church Hill Lodge near Moseley Green in the township of West Dean on view of the body of James Robert ANDERSON aged 33 years: Collier Road Foreman.

The following jury were Sworn.

James Smith CHARLEY
Thomas LEE
Thomas HAWKINS
James DAVIES
Thomas RICHARDS
William BURROWS
James RUCK
William RUCK
William WATKINS
Arthur JAMES
Francis KEAR
William MORGAN


Witnesses:

Ernest George HALE of Moseley Green, Collier
Sam SPICER of Parkend, Police Constable
William ANDERSON, Father of the deceased
Walter Charles HALPIN of Parkend, Surgeon


Verdict:

Date of Death, 26 June 1895
Place: Church Hill Lodge: West Dean
Cause: Laceration of the spinal cord, the result of being thrown out of a trip, the pony drawing which having become unmanageable and ran off the main road down a steep bank.


Payments:

Jurors:  8
Surgeon : 1.1


Total: 1.9
Title: Re: richard Merry
Post by: PaulineJ on Sunday 25 February 18 20:58 GMT (UK)
What a sad little (and convoluted) story.

I (only) put the 1891/1901/1911 & births for info/elimination  because they seemed to be connected (but I couldn't "prove" it). The rest of RC-ers turned up trumps though.

Pauline
Title: Re: richard Merry
Post by: heddwch on Sunday 25 February 18 23:21 GMT (UK)
Many thanks  James Robert Anderson was Alexandra  Hale first husband   and the father of Flora  R Anderson

Heddwch