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Title: Help Please
Post by: peharris95 on Sunday 25 February 18 13:13 GMT (UK)
Hi Folk's, Help required to decipher the writing on the back of this picture postcard from around 1915-1930 in Salford, Lancashire, on the rear of the card is a picture of my Grandma 1882-1929, she is posing with the local rag and bone man and holding a Pidgeon, Pic currently on (Old Photographs Forum).

The way the number 7 is crossed is interesting and I can make out the word "Pidgeon" but not much else, thank you for any attempts at this.

Cheers, Peter.
Title: Re: Help Please
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 25 February 18 13:21 GMT (UK)
Top right   
does it say '20x16'
and underneath that  'paper'
Title: Re: Help Please
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 25 February 18 13:25 GMT (UK)
I think bottom says

Most of lady only
with pigeon
Photo* out B Gray

*??? maybe Black on second look
Title: Re: Help Please
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 25 February 18 13:27 GMT (UK)
Might help:

Title: Re: Help Please
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 25 February 18 13:35 GMT (UK)
Also

Oval 12/6

B&W P(xxxx) 7


(Sorry - my bluetooth mouse is playing up!)
Title: Re: Help Please
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 25 February 18 13:53 GMT (UK)
Thinking back to my days of chemical photo printing. I think there was a photo paper size of  20x16 ins.

Could it be instructions/ideas to a printer for an enlargement and (possibly) printed with a white vignette - hence the 'oval'


Gadget
Title: Re: Help Please
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 25 February 18 14:21 GMT (UK)
Thinking back to my days of chemical photo printing. I think there was a photo paper size of  20x16 ins.

Could it be instructions/ideas to a printer for an enlargement and (possibly) printed with a white vignette - hence the 'oval'


Gadget

My thoughts too about instructions for a reprint & framing.  :)
Title: Re: Help Please
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 25 February 18 14:35 GMT (UK)
Found a paper size that matches - Imperial Copy Draught = 16x 20 ins.  Also, the current   A3+ photo paper* is very close.

* based on standard photo paper sizes.

Title: Re: Help Please
Post by: Karen McDonald on Sunday 25 February 18 17:45 GMT (UK)
If it is instructions, it could be something like:

Most of lady only with pigeon Blanked out

Maybe. Possibly.  ;D

Karen

Title: Re: Help Please
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 25 February 18 18:01 GMT (UK)
Think that was mostly what we said earlier, Karen. It was the blanked that I couldn't quite read in Reply #2 ~

I've adjusted my original restore - best look for an image a bit like this. I'm not removing the pigeon as I'm on laptop and need to use my Wacom/ and Mac for that.

PS  - I'll waive the 12/6  ;D





Title: Re: Help Please
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 25 February 18 18:42 GMT (UK)
I had a go at taking out the pigeon but I'd have to do a fair bit of  work to adjust her arm so that she doesn't look as if she's holding something.

Gadget
Title: Re: Help Please
Post by: suey on Sunday 25 February 18 19:26 GMT (UK)
I had a go at taking out the pigeon but I'd have to do a fair bit of  work to adjust her arm so that she doesn't look as if she's holding something.

Gadget

Quite amazing what you folk can do with a photo  :-*  Maybe give her a posy of flowers?   
Title: Re: Help Please
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 25 February 18 20:15 GMT (UK)


Quite amazing what you folk can do with a photo  :-*  Maybe give her a posy of flowers?

I didn't see anything about flowers on the photo back, suey.  ;D ;D ;D

Haven't seen you around for a while.
Title: Re: Help Please
Post by: Karen McDonald on Sunday 25 February 18 21:03 GMT (UK)
Think that was mostly what we said earlier, Karen. It was the blanked that I couldn't quite read in Reply #2 ~

I wasn't trying to be smart - I was agreeing with what had been said and was trying to point out the Blanked bit (if it is indeed Blanked).
Title: Re: Help Please
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 25 February 18 21:05 GMT (UK)
Never thought of you trying to be smart, Karen  ;D

 I was saying that I couldn't work out the blanked.
Title: Re: Help Please
Post by: Geoff-E on Sunday 25 February 18 21:21 GMT (UK)
Found a paper size that matches - Imperial Copy Draught = 16x 20 ins.

I'm sure you're old enough to remember Ken Dodd's chartblaster "Eight by ten" ... that's what you get if you cut a 16 x 20 into quarters. ;)
Title: Re: Help Please
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 25 February 18 21:23 GMT (UK)
More than that, Geoff - I used to buy 10x8 in Multigrade (satin)  ;D

(for proofs - used the proper stuff for final prints)
Title: Re: Help Please
Post by: Geoff-E on Sunday 25 February 18 21:45 GMT (UK)
More than that, Geoff - I used to buy 10x8 in Multigrade (satin)  ;D

I put multigrade (20w50) in my engine.

When I was involved with research in a former life of mine, I had 16" x 20" photo prints prepared. :)
Title: Re: Help Please
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 25 February 18 22:05 GMT (UK)
Off topic but~

 I loved darkroom work - to see an image slowly appear in the developer tray was magic  :)

Biggest print that I ever did was 5 feet x 3 feet. I had to stick the paper to the floor and raise the developer head really high .
Title: Re: Help Please
Post by: peharris95 on Monday 26 February 18 21:28 GMT (UK)
Many thanks for all contributions, your work here is done!! :-*

Regards,

Peter.