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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: Abygail on Monday 26 February 18 11:52 GMT (UK)
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A friend discovered this photo behind another photo and is wondering who she is. Was she the bride of her uncle, William Goldman or is it coincidence that the photo is in the same frame? William Goldman was a Pilot Officer and was listed as missing over the North Sea on the 15 Nov 1941 along with the rest of the crew on the aircraft he was in.
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What a beautiful photo..have you looked on Ancestry for matching trees of William to see if any members have her in their tree?
Carol
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It doesn't mention a wife here:
https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/1798501/goldman,-william/
Carol
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I have been through the BMD records for Australia and the UK without any joy. Just found the newspaper notice re his assumed death 1942. The is no mention of a wife so it is pure speculation..
He trained in Canada so that is where I'm looking next. Have no idea re the identity of the young bride. Can anyone give me some information re her style of gown, I thought it was a bit too grand for a war time dress but if it was a family heirloom that is different.
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I think probably 1920s or 1930s. For more information try posting the photo on the photo dating board here on Rootschat.
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I think probably 1920s or 1930s. For more information try posting the photo on the photo dating board here on Rootschat.
I had the same thought about the date.
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I agree with the suggested date too.
Carol
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Thank you for the suggestion re the photo dating site.
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Marriage between niece and uncle is not legally permitted in Australia.
Sue
Ah!! Sorry ::)
I just got it ;D
You mean the wife of your friend's uncle who was William GOLDMAN.
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Comment from sparrett - where did you get the idea of niece / uncle marriage? I haven't made any reference to such a union. What I am trying to achieve is to identify the bride, the only possible connection to William Goldman is, as I originally said -her photo was behind his photo in the same picture frame.
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A friend discovered this photo behind another photo and is wondering who she is. Was she the bride of her uncle, William Goldman or is it coincidence that the photo is in the same frame? William Goldman was a Pilot Officer and was listed as missing over the North Sea on the 15 Nov 1941 along with the rest of the crew on the aircraft he was in.
I think the confusion relates to this -: You ask if the woman was the bride of William Goldman.
William Goldman was your friend's uncle. :)
I originally read it the same way as Sparrett did -: "was she the bride of her uncle William Goldman" - it sounds like you are asking if the girl was the bride of her own uncle ... :)
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There is an obit here with some family information which your friend probably already has - no mention at all of a wife.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/11994361
The family death notice for William here
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/11994203
Judith
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Comment from sparrett - where did you get the idea of niece / uncle marriage? I haven't made any reference to such a union. What I am trying to achieve is to identify the bride, the only possible connection to William Goldman is, as I originally said -her photo was behind his photo in the same picture frame.
Perhaps you did not note that I amended my original post with an apology.
Something in the phrasing was a little ambiguous to me, hence the comment.
Misunderstandings do happen from time to time.
No need to worry.
I do understand your friend's uncle was William GOLDMAN.
Sue
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Probably not his sister Gwen according to this description of her wedding dress, 1933
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/11722380
Judith
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HI
Could it be a photo of his mother?
Jenn
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Looking again at the quality of the image, it looks like a print rather than a photo which would be glossy, I think it is most likely that it is a stock photo that came with the frame when purchased.
Carol
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Would they have had stock photos back in those days ... 30s,40s, even 50s depending on the age of the frame of course?
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I have a sweetheart brooch from WW1 with a stock photo of a lady inside which was identified as such by Jim. Also, we don't know when the Uncle's photo was put in the frame.
Just a suggestion not a fact.
Carol
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true Carol ... maybe Abygail can take a photo of the frame itself (back and front?). :-\