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Title: John Hughes
Post by: peony2blue on Tuesday 27 February 18 11:55 GMT (UK)
 I have  John  Hughes  census  1881  Penlon  Yard cottage  , Bangor born  Heneglwys.  1891  Penlon Yard   Cottage,  Bangor   Born Bodffordd    Anglesey. 1901  Pennon  Yard  Cottage   born  Bodffordd  Anglesey.  John Hughes  1908  age 53   Bangor

I  have birth  registration,   born  Ty'n a Capel  Heneglwys    father  John Hughes tailor , mother  Margaret  Formerly  Jones.  27/06 1854

I   cannot  find any trace of  John Hughes  born    1854 in census  1861 or  1871 in Bodffordd  in Heneglwys. Anglesey  Help  please?
Title: Re: John Hughes
Post by: PaulineJ on Tuesday 27 February 18 12:16 GMT (UK)
Typical scenario is that the father died, and the mother has re-married and the kids of the first marriage are enumerated under the step-father's surname.

Was the 1854-born chap wed between 1871 and 1881?
What names witness at the marriage?
Title: Re: John Hughes
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 27 February 18 12:20 GMT (UK)
It does help those trying to help you if you give census references and/or links to the records you have on familysearch.   ;)   :)
Title: Re: John Hughes
Post by: peony2blue on Tuesday 27 February 18 14:24 GMT (UK)
  Thank you for your help
Hi  I haven't  been able to find a marriage  which  fits . 

I am sorry but i don't know  how to link  census  details  from  Familysearch  I have been using Find my  past 

Eryl

 
Title: Re: John Hughes
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 27 February 18 15:00 GMT (UK)
When you view the transcripts on FindMyPast they give a reference starting RG11 (1881)  RG12 (1891) &RG13 (1901)  followed by Piece no, folio no and page no.   With a name as common as John Hughes it helps us to see who you are referring to.  ;)

Title: Re: John Hughes
Post by: peony2blue on Tuesday 27 February 18 15:35 GMT (UK)
John Hughes RG 13  /5280  page 25
John  Hughes RG 12/4666 page  23
John Hughes  RG11/ 5576  page 17
John Hughes  RG11/5576 page 16

Eryl
Title: Re: John Hughes
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 27 February 18 15:49 GMT (UK)
Thank you  :)

1881  https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2WS-V3T3

1891  https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:45SF-KN2

1901 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9BC-97Z

Does John & Sarah's marriage give any information on John's father.  Who were the witnesses
Title: Re: John Hughes
Post by: peony2blue on Tuesday 27 February 18 15:58 GMT (UK)
thank you 

peony2blue 
Title: Re: John Hughes
Post by: peony2blue on Tuesday 27 February 18 16:02 GMT (UK)
cant  find  marriage  of John Hughes  and Sarah  Jones

BAN/17/E87  1875

BAN/26/E26 1876

Neither of  these  marriages  fit!
Title: Re: John Hughes
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 27 February 18 16:30 GMT (UK)
Why doesn't this one match  :-\

HUGHES   John   
JONES   Sarah   
Bangor, Civil Marriage   Gwynedd (Caernarfon)   
BAN/17/E87
Title: Re: John Hughes
Post by: peony2blue on Tuesday 27 February 18 16:58 GMT (UK)

BAN/17/E87 1875
Groom's  father not  John  Hughes or a tailor  and  John Hughes  Groom  was  a labourer not  stone cutter/mason.

  Ban/26/E62 1876    John Hughes - groom was a stone cutter.  His father  John Hughes was a Railway  police  constable!
Title: Re: John Hughes
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 27 February 18 17:14 GMT (UK)
Is this your direct line that you have tracked backwards to 1881 or are you trying to work forwards from  John Hughes the tailor
Title: Re: John Hughes
Post by: peony2blue on Tuesday 27 February 18 17:48 GMT (UK)
this is my direct line  tracing backwards  from   birth of my grandmother in 1877 in Bangor
 
Title: Re: John Hughes
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 27 February 18 18:03 GMT (UK)
How do you know that this birth is his  :-\

Ty'n a Capel  Heneglwys    father  John Hughes tailor , mother  Margaret  Formerly  Jones.  27/06 1854
Title: Re: John Hughes
Post by: despair on Tuesday 27 February 18 19:03 GMT (UK)
This looks possible for the 1861 census:-

RG09/4358/76/12

Regards
Roger
Title: Re: John Hughes
Post by: dragonT on Tuesday 27 February 18 19:36 GMT (UK)
This looks possible for the 1861 census:-

RG09/4358/76/12

Regards
Roger

This was suggested when this query was previously raised, see http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=734154.9
Title: Re: John Hughes
Post by: peony2blue on Wednesday 28 February 18 08:41 GMT (UK)
This one isn't   right  as  my  Great grand father  John Hughes was born in Bodfordd  Henegwys  See RG 11/5576/12

Peony2blue
Title: Re: John Hughes
Post by: despair on Wednesday 28 February 18 10:04 GMT (UK)
Apologies if I'm going over old ground again,but I see that John Thos.Hughes(tailor) and his wife Margaret are next door(Penlon Yard Cottage,previous page) to John Hughes(mason) and Sarah in the 1881 census,therefore likely to be parents(?).
Given the occupation and birthplaces,John and Margaret appear to be here in 1851:-
HO107/2522/546/10
which is where the posting originated,looking for 1861,1871.
Title: Re: John Hughes
Post by: despair on Wednesday 28 February 18 10:26 GMT (UK)
This looks like John(mis-transcribed age,50 not 80?) and Margaret in 1871,with a daughter Ellen Jane,given born 1860

RG10/5752/62/2

Regards
Roger

Added Not so sure now!
Title: Re: John Hughes
Post by: despair on Wednesday 28 February 18 10:54 GMT (UK)
It's not a mistranscription,I've found that couple in 1851 at HO107/2520/323/13.,so back to the drawing board for 1861,1871.

Regards
Roger
Title: Re: John Hughes
Post by: peony2blue on Saturday 03 March 18 12:47 GMT (UK)
Thank you