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Title: Mansell Family Gotherington/Bishops Cleeve
Post by: Mansl on Tuesday 27 February 18 20:07 GMT (UK)
I was just wondering if there is any way I could go further back in my family tree, at the start of it
I have

Thomas Mansell died 1818 Gotherington aged 69, Buried 17/9/1818 in Bishops Cleeve.

Married Mary Wilks 24/7/1776 at Bishops Cleeve.

Mary died 1815 aged 66, Buried 18/11/1815 at Bishops Cleeve.

I already have their sons Richard bapt. 26/1/177 and Thomas bapt. 14/1/1780 both born at Gotherington and bapt. at Bishops Cleeve.

I couldn't find any other children.

Alan
Title: Re: Mansell Family Gotherington/Bishops Cleeve
Post by: Daisypetal on Tuesday 27 February 18 20:58 GMT (UK)

Hi,

How about this one, about 8 miles away?


Dowdeswell
1748
Thomas son of Richard MANSELL and Johannah his wife was baptised on 25th December


Regards,
Daisy
Title: Re: Mansell Family Gotherington/Bishops Cleeve
Post by: Daisypetal on Tuesday 27 February 18 21:25 GMT (UK)

Possible baptisms for Thomas and Mary's children,


24 Feb 1782
Bishops Cleeve
Ann Dr of Thomas and Mary MANFEL of Gotherington


09 Sept 1784
Bishops Cleeve
Hannah Dr of Thomas and Mary MANSELL of Gotherington


31 Jan 1790
Bishops Cleeve
Jean Dr of Thomas and Mary MANSELL of Gotherington


Title: Re: Mansell Family Gotherington/Bishops Cleeve
Post by: Mansl on Wednesday 28 February 18 11:17 GMT (UK)
Hello Daisy.

I am very grateful for your help. I did spend a week in Gloucester records office a few years ago camping in a field 5 miles away and was only able to find what I have.

Ann, Hannah, and Jean look as though they are Thomas and Mary's daughters, being daughters and not sons makes it easy for me to put them in my book because if they were males I have to follow their children as well. I can certainly add Richard and Johannah  to my tree along with the baptism. My family comes off Richard their son, Thomas their other son I could not find again after his baptism. If either of those girls got married and there was a record found that would be great.

I suppose the next thing to find is who was Johannah.

Thank you Alan
Title: Re: Mansell Family Gotherington/Bishops Cleeve
Post by: Capetown on Wednesday 28 February 18 14:15 GMT (UK)
Ancestry

Rich MANSELL married Joannah JACKSON - Dowdeswell, 30 May 1748
Title: Re: Mansell Family Gotherington/Bishops Cleeve
Post by: Mansl on Wednesday 28 February 18 14:22 GMT (UK)
That is brilliant thank you, I am busy moving my family tree down a generation of which I now have eleven.

I have to try and find the deaths of Richard and Johannah and  any of those daughters and Thomas the son.

Thank you again Capetown.
Title: Re: Mansell Family Gotherington/Bishops Cleeve
Post by: Mansl on Thursday 01 March 18 11:11 GMT (UK)
I have found this as well on familysearch.

3/2/1754

Whittington, next to Dowdeswell

Alice Dr of Richard and Joanna Mansell of Whittington

Alan
Title: Re: Mansell Family Gotherington/Bishops Cleeve
Post by: Capetown on Thursday 01 March 18 16:57 GMT (UK)


Just to recap, Thomas MANSELL married Mary WILKS 24 July 1776 at Bishops Cleeve and Mary died 1815 aged 66 = c1749

Ancestry/Gloucestershire, England, Overseers Index

Name: Mary Wilks
Birth date: abt 1749
Residence year: 1769
Residence: Bishops Cleeve
Reference: P78 OV 3/1/4/80
Title: Re: Mansell Family Gotherington/Bishops Cleeve
Post by: Mansl on Thursday 01 March 18 17:07 GMT (UK)
Hi Capetown

What does that mean "Residence year 1769 Bishops Cleeve"

is it like an electoral register.

Alan
Title: Re: Mansell Family Gotherington/Bishops Cleeve
Post by: Capetown on Thursday 01 March 18 17:23 GMT (UK)


It's an Overseers Report in 1769 -

Just looking at the Gloucestershire Genelogical Database - there is also a Kattan WILKES same year 1769 - Bishops Cleeve (just check for more).


Obviously they were poor and in need of help.
Title: Re: Mansell Family Gotherington/Bishops Cleeve
Post by: Capetown on Thursday 01 March 18 17:28 GMT (UK)

Kattan Wilkes - Overseers Report 1769 - Bishops Cleeve


Kattan WILKS - christened 25 June 1770 - Bishops Cleeve, Gloucester, parents: Jos WILKS & Mary


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Family Search - does have the children of Jos/Joseph & Mary WILKS at Bishops Cleeve
Title: Re: Mansell Family Gotherington/Bishops Cleeve
Post by: Mansl on Thursday 01 March 18 17:33 GMT (UK)
Maybe Mary was married before.
Title: Re: Mansell Family Gotherington/Bishops Cleeve
Post by: Mansl on Thursday 01 March 18 17:42 GMT (UK)
Joseph and Mary have a son Thomas Baptised in 1782 which probably means Joseph could be my Mary's brother.

Alan
Title: Re: Mansell Family Gotherington/Bishops Cleeve
Post by: Mansl on Monday 08 April 19 17:30 BST (UK)
Now I have added Richard and Joanna(Johannah) (Joannah) to my tree I would like to find when Joanna may have died. I have searched family searched but no joy.

burial could be Bishops Cleeve or Dowdeswell or Whittington or Winchcombe.

Alan