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General => The Common Room => Topic started by: AncestryPete on Wednesday 28 February 18 12:56 GMT (UK)
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Hi, I need to get a check done on Absent Voters Lists (held at the Guildhall and not on Ancestry/FindMyPast) and I need to find a researcher, please can anybody recommend one from personal knowledge ?
thanks Pete
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nobody ? ???
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I would imagine most people would have been staying at home and avoiding the snow since you posted this request 5 days ago, you may have to be patient ;D
It may be an idea to give details of what you are looking for in case anyone goes there.
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Most of the London/South East based researchers on the AGRA list will visit the Guildhall for you
http://www.agra.org.uk
For a very simple look-up it may be cheaper to see if the Guildhall have an in house research service (most archives do).
Are you sure the lists you want are at the Guildhall Library and not at the London Metropolitan Archives ... the catalogue is combined, and notoriously confusing.
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The records are held at LMA, not at Guildhall. The holdings are described here ...
https://search.lma.gov.uk/SCRIPTS/MWIMAIN.DLL/157552417/2/1/14?RECORD&DATABASE=RESEARCH_GUIDES
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The records are held at LMA, not at Guildhall. The holdings are described here ...
I understand there are some documents at the Guildhall which aren't available at the LMA.
If AncestryPete could give a bit more of a hint at what is needed there might be somone happening to be passing through the area of the Guildhall in the near future.
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The records are held at LMA, not at Guildhall. The holdings are described here ...
I understand there are some documents at the Guildhall which aren't available at the LMA.
If AncestryPete could give a bit more of a hint at what is needed there might be somone happening to be passing through the area of the Guildhall in the near future.
As I also suggested on post 2. People that visit these archives sometimes check before going if there is anything that anyone on here may want looking at.
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From experience on the L&M boards, researchers in and around London who visit the various London archives are few and far between.
You might have a bit of a wait for someone to come forward with an offer of help.
But please post specifically with your look-up request details.
The information may be available else where such as the British Library.
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Thanks to all for the guidance. Yes the weather was quite nasty wasn't it.
I'm trying to locate Albert Henry Bird of the New Cross (now SE14) area on the Absent Voters Lists for 1918-20 and would appreciate any help.
thanks Pete
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I had a spare half hour on Friday and managed to get to the Guildhall Library. The staff said they didn't have any Absent Voter Lists held there. They did a quick check on the system and said if it was held it would be at the LMA in the form of microfilm.
Apparently the lists will be in streetname order, so it would be a case of having to look through one street at a time until he is found.
Unless it is possible to narrow the search area down that sounds like quite a task :(
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... Guildhall Library. The staff said they didn't have any Absent Voter Lists held there. They did a quick check on the system and said if it was held it would be at the LMA in the form of microfilm.
As already posted in reply #4 above.
The link I posted there has not persisted, so this is what the LMA research guide says about their Absent Voters Lists:
London Metropolitan Archives holds the following Absent Voters Lists:
• Balham and Tooting: 1932
• City: 1937, 1939
• Deptford: 1932, 1939
• Fulham: 1920, 1921, 1924, 1926-1929, 1931, 1932, 1935, 1937
• Holborn: 1932
• Islington: 1924
• Lewisham: 1918, 1924
• Southwark: 1919
• Streatham and Putney: 1934
• Wandsworth: 1918-1920
In addition to these separate registers, from 1918 to 1949 for the area under the jurisdiction of the London County Council, absent voters are marked in the normal civilian register of electors with an 'a', and from 1949 to 1979 they are indicated by an 's' for Service voter.
So for New Cross in 1918-1920, your only chance at LMA will be if he was in a street that came under Lewisham at that date, or if he was listed in the normal civilian register, indicated with an ‘a’.
As Dawn has already said, there may be something more at the British Library.
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Thank you very much for your help, it is sincerely appreciated.
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There is an Albert Henry Bird listed in Wandsworth Constituency in 1918 and 1919 with his regiment, rank and number in Sellincourt Road.
What's the link to New Cross?
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Hi Dawn
that is another man of the same name, he was a book seller living at 188 Sellincourt Road Wadsworth and confused me until I noted that his wife was Elizabeth Phoebe, there were 3 men of the name within a few miles, another in St Olaves who later married to Florence Mary, and one in New Cross.
The one we're after is the New Cross man, trying to find his address in 1918, he was home by 1920 living with his wife Eva and son at 2 Mostyn Road, Lambeth.
thanks
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when and what's the address in New Cross?
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When would be 1917-1919
It is the address that I'm trying to find, that's what I'm after :D
From memory I thought that the AVL was a 2 or 3 page appendix to the main listing which just gave the names, home addresses and regiment of the absent men from that district.
thanks Pete
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yes, but why specifically New Cross?
In 1907, they married in Kensington, in 1911 they were in Willesden and in 1920 he was in Lambeth.
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Absent Voters Lists (held at the Guildhall and not on Ancestry/FindMyPast)
UK, Absent Voter Lists, 1918-1925, 1939
https://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=61320
Has the Lewisham one, but New Cross is more Deptford?
Also includes Islington, Autumn 1919, which the LMA seemed unaware of.
Albert and Eva are at 3 Mostyn Road in 1920 (but I don't think there earlier)
Haven't come up anywhere in 1918-19 via a search (Eva would probably have been 30+ so she should appear as well), ancestry have indexed the electoral registers using OCR and many names are missed.
John
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thank you John