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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cheshire => Topic started by: Kat7272 on Friday 02 March 18 17:48 GMT (UK)
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Hi
I have found a listing for the above, would this have been a pub?
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If that is in Macclesfield it certainly was a pub. According to the Post Office Directory for 1857 the publican was a T Strawbridge.
Emeltom
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Yes it was T Strawbridge.
But I don't know anything other than the listing.
Hopefully someone will be able to help.
It would be nice to know the obvious, is the building still there and what is it called now.
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It just says Cheshire, would it definitely be Macclesfield?
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In the Cheshire Post Ofice Directory 1857 found on
http://cheshiredirectories.manuscripteye.com
There are two entries for pubs called the Punch Bowl. One is in Howlake, Birkenhead and the other is in Market Place, Macclesfield.
The fact that you have found one in Market Place in 1855 and I have found one in Market Place in 1857 is a bit too much of a coincidence for it not to be the same pub, don't you think.
Emeltom
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Great link, thanks.
In the listing from your link it says Macclesfield. The listing I looked at only said Cheshire.
So I am now clear on where the punch bowl was or is.
I don't suppose you would know where the actual building is / was, or if anyone is familiar with the area would they be able to tell me?
Thanks again.
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The Punch Bowl was in the vicinity of Unicorn Gateway, probably on the corner of Market Place and Union Gateway. I have seen the address written as Union Gateway in one directory*. Looking at the censuses it seems to have been next to the Union Inn and very close to the Unicorn Inn.
* In Morris's 1874 Cheshire Directory there is this Macclesfield listing:
Morton Harry, "Punch Bowl" inn, Union Gateway, Market place
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Thanks ShaunJ
What is on the site of the Punch Bowl today? And what would be or is it's current address?
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It would have been where Macclesfield Town Hall now stands.
Here is the Town Hall on Google Streetview https://goo.gl/mcuap1
Unicorn Gateway is the street on the left. Market Place continues straight ahead.
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Fitzgerald House is where the pub was?
It's a lovely place.
Thanks for the google street map link. Much appreciated.
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Is there any way that I could look at any more listings to find out what the 'T' stands for in T Strawbridge?
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Is there any way that I could look at any more listings to find out what the 'T' stands for in T Strawbridge?
Thomas Strawbridge (age 27, inn keeper) was married in Macclesfield in 1854 (to Elizabeth Holt). His father was Joseph Strawbridge, a cork cutter.
Fitzgerald House is where the pub was?
Fitzgerald House is an annex to the main town hall which is a bit further along Market Place. The Punch Bowl and a number of other inns were previously in that location (where the town hall complex is now) but precisely where is difficult to ascertain.
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Thanks for the prompt reply.
Where does it say his full name, can I look it up?
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If you go to the link I gave you for the Post Office 1857 Directory, click on Alphabetical Directory Eas-Yea, scroll down to Macclesfield and he is on page 153 as printed at the top of the Page
Thomas Strawbridge, Punch Bowl, Market Place.
Emeltom
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But how does shaunj know who he marred and who his father is? Where did he find that info?
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Here's the marriage record. If you are not registered with Family Search you will need to register to view the image (it's free)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F3XQ-W6Y
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Thanks Shaunj. How can you be sure the marriage record is the same person as the publican? What links the two?
I'm not doubting your findings, I'm interested to know.
Thanks again to all for your help.
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What links the two?
The name + the occupation (inn keeper)
Also see baptism for daughter Agnes in 1857 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-62K8-35Z?i=593&cc=1614792
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Great. Thanks Shaunj. And thanks for the link. I will look tomorrow.
It's funny how some listings contain more or less information than others.
This publican is a Strawbridge from my family tree.
Thanks again for your help and explanation/s.
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Would anyone know how I could find out what brewery the pub belonged to? It would be interesting to contact them to see if they have any records.
Thanks
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You could try
http://www
.breweryhistory.com/Defunct/DefunctIndex.htm
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Thanks Elzabels, I have looked at the site and some of the links to other sites that may be helpful.
I will let you know how I get on.
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Hi, I have had a reply from a site I contacted about any information on the Punch Bowl, and basically there is not a lot of info available.
I'm still looking on the internet to see if I can find any other information.
I was really hoping I may be able to find something, but up to now, nothing.
My next search is to see if there are any pics of old Macclesfield about, maybe there is a pic of the pub or the street the pub was on.
I will let you know how I get on.
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I haven't read the whole thread so please forgive me, but have you considered contacting Macclesfield Library to see whether they might have old photographs.
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Hi BumbleB
No I hadn't thought of that, thanks.
Does anyone know if they would email me a pic if any, or would I have to visit the library in person, I live in Worcestershire.
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You can only ask the question of the library. :)
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Buxton Road will be in Maccesfield. It runs from Buxton and joins with Waters Green by the train station. There is a gathering of streets including public houses which I am sure the Punch Bowl was one. That area is where the market took place. Most of old Buxton Road has been demolished for new houses.