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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Lanarkshire => Topic started by: ani1982 on Sunday 04 March 18 01:10 GMT (UK)
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Hi I discovered my dad's biological fathers name is William isaac Leitch who married Janet Macaulay in 1957 at Provan glasgow. They must have divorced by 1964 as that's when she wed my grandad. My dad was born in 1959 he has no memory of William and he was never mentioned when my dad was growing up. No one I know has any info. Where do I Start any help tips/tricks much appreciated
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The marriage entry for William and Janet was indeed at Provan in 1957 - his name is shown as William Isaac S. Leitch.
William Isaac S. Leitch's death entry is shown as:
William Isaac S. Leitch born 10/9/1936, died Oct. 2002 Carmarthen.
He appears to have remarried in Sept.qtr.1963 Swansea to a lady surnamed Giles (cannot give full name as she could still be living). They appear to have had 3 children in Swansea, a son Mar.qtr.1964, a daughter Mar.qtr.1965 and another son in Jun.qtr.1975 - cannot name as no doubt still living).
There is another marriage shown for him (luckily he has a distinctive name) in June 1996 in Llanelli.
If it is his ancestry you are trying to find then the best thing to do would be to obtain a copy of his marriage certificate (to Janet) in 1957. This was in Scotland and you can order it by registering with Scotland People website. Scottish certificates give far more information than English ones and the marriage certificate will list the names of his parents.
I also looked for his birth on SP and it seems that his second and 3rd. names had been switched around by the time he married. Birth entry is shown as William Scott I. Leitch born 1936 Shettleston - again you can order birth certificate on SP. Cost of each certificate is £12.
Once you get further back in time you can purchase credits instead and actually view copies of the relevant records. However, one step at a time.
If, however, you are wanting to trace any living relatives then I'm afraid we can't help much as Rootschat is for help with tracing ancestors and not living people.
Annette
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Blimey Your an actual. i had found the date of his death but i wasnt sure if it was him so i had made a note of it to go back to.
those details are great and now i can look for ancestral history.
If your up for a challenge im also searching my maternal grandfather ( i cant get details from my biological mother).
Maternal Gran is Cecelia O'Brien she died 5/11/2013 at 81yr old. Have no grandfather details.
and if im not already pushing my luck i was looking for my wee aunties history (he was like my gran) I found a Lilias M ( the M may stand for Merrylee, god i hope it does lol) either Crorken or McGroarty
born 1941 tradeston was the RD. she died 2007 at 65yo and she married Donald Macaulay in 1972.
God i cant believe how fast you sorted through all that information. I find it confusing and i cant make head or tails of some of it.
Again i thank you a million times.
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Hi Ani
Sometimes it helps if you can enter what you do know for sure in a family tree on your computer. You can get free templates from several sites. I prefer the Ancestral Quest tree. It's simple to use and very clear. There are others, though. Then you can see the various generations and sometimes get an idea of the timeframes you're looking for.
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Hi ani1982,
Been trying to find your grandfather and your aunt but with no success I'm affraid. Do you have any more details?
Are you a Londoner by any chance?
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Found the birth and marriage of Lilias M Crorken on Scotlands People but nothing else about her. If you order her birth cert you should find her parents.
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Hi ani1982,
Been trying to find your grandfather and your aunt but with no success I'm affraid. Do you have any more details?
Are you a Londoner by any chance?
Hi solidrock, thanks for the help. No not a Londoner but a Glaswegian.
details about my mystery grandfather - cecelia o'brien had 7 children.
Possibly lived in govan, glasgow when growing up as that where they ended up. Cecelia was also known as Dalshy and im sure her sister was nora (married name osborne). Dalshy (we called her that instead of gran) died 5/11/2013 still living in Govan Glasgow right beside the shipyards.
thanks for any help.
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Found the birth and marriage of Lilias M Crorken on Scotlands People but nothing else about her. If you order her birth cert you should find her parents.
I have vague recollections of her being a McGroarty and she married Donald Macaulay who was brother to Janet Macaulay who married William Isaac Leitch then Tommy Swan Maxwell (I swear when i heard his name was Tommy Swan Maxwell my 1st thought was thats a gangster sounding name lol) Lilias was known as Lily and had a brother Alec or Alex. Lilys husband Donald is another puzzle lol ive found details on his siblings births but not his strangely and i only remember he was old lol.
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Hi , welcome to RC :)
I've edited your posts for living(or possibly living) persons , and moved the topic to Lanarkshire.
Cecilia O'Brien(other surname McGowan) death 2013 Glasgow Lanark , age 81 , mother's maiden surname Crombie.
There is a possible McGowan / O'Brien marriage 1956 Tradeston Lanark.
The 1921 marriage of Philip McGowan / Cecilia Crombie 1921 Govan Lanark may be of interest.
As has already been mentioned Scotlandspeople certificates are the way to go.
ev
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National Archives of Scotland have a reference to a divorce in 1963 , William I S Leitch / Janet McAulay.
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As posted by ev I feel sure that Cecilia O'Brien was Cecilia McGowan born 1932, mmn Crombie, who married an O'Brien (can't name him as possibly still alive) in 1956 Tradeston - you easily find his Christian name by looking at the marriage entry.
You refer to a sister 'Nora' - think this was a nickname/pet name as she appears to have been born as Honor McGowan 1938 - married to Osborne (can't name in case still living) in 1963 Tradeston. She died as Honor Osborne 73, mmn Crombie, in 2011 Glasgow Martha St. R.D.
Looks like a brother Philip McGowan was born 1923 Govan - he died in 1982 Renfrew (mmn Crombie).
Their parents - as stated by ev - appear to be Philip McGowan and Cecilia Crombie who married 1921 Govan.
There is a tree on Ancestry stating Philip McGowan (tree gives his middle name as Fowley - his mothers maiden name - but birth/marriage/death are as plain Philip) born 17/1/1897 to a John McGowan and Bridget Fowley who married 1893 Govan - the tree also includes photos of both John McGowan and wife Bridget. The tree states Philip McGowan died 1946 (no details of where) but this is untrue. He died 11/4/1943 Knightswood Hospital, Glasgow, home address 109 Neptune Street, Glasgow (you can actually view the death certificate on SP by buying some credits) and confirms his wife was Cecilia nee Crombie.
I would suggest that you concentrate on one person/family at a time, buying certificates as needed initially to confirm details as you are effectively starting off 'blind' with names but no details.
Annette
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Looks Like 'McGroarty' was one of Lilias' Christian names all birth/marriage/death all show her as Lilias M (Merrylee) McG. and death entry give mothers maiden name as McLean.
As you say, she was born in 1941 and looks like her parents were an Alexander C Crorken and Margaret McLean who married in Govan in 1929. Possible brother Alexander born 1946.
Annette