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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Topic started by: Kevin Burrell on Sunday 04 March 18 10:35 GMT (UK)
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The man in this picture lived with my maternal Grandmother Lilian Carpenter (nee park nee Starling) sometime in the late 1960's early 1970's. I only ever knew him as Uncle Sid - and he was really the only 'Grandfather' I knew as Lilian's first husband died before I was born and her second when I was 5. Never thought to ask his name while Mum was alive, and after finding these photos while sorting out the estate it has sparked a hunger to find out. They never married (assume Nan didn't want to after losing 2 husbands already) - but lived in Nans house in Valence Avenue, Dagenham.
Not a lot to go on really - but thought I would give it a go - at least until I can get access to Dagenham Electoral Registers post 1965.
Oh, the pictures were found in a couple of tiny viewers with the Butlins logo - so if anyone recognises which Butlin's these pictures were taken it, let me know
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Forgot to add... Sid had a false leg as he apparently lost it during the war
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Sorry, don't recognise them but I dropped by to say that you might get a better result by posting your request on the relevant county board instead of the general "England" country board. I see from the website GENUKI that Dagenham is in Essex County.
I wondered if you have posted your request on this Facebook Group webpage, which is about olden day memories and entitled: "Barking and Dagenham days gone by"
https://www.facebook.com/groups/268377570012302/
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Did your grandmother die before him, if so, her will might name him?
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In 1964 the two occupants of 454 Valance Avenue were Lilian M Carpenter and Stanley Carpenter, presumably her husband then? She is on her own the following year.
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Thanks Rena and Groom for the prompt replies....
Rena - thank you very much, will look at that facebook site
Groom - No, Sid passed away sometime in the 1970's and Nan in 1981 - and yes, Stanley was her second husband who passed away late 1964 in the Lowestoft Pontin's Holiday Camp where we were all on holiday.
Cheers
Kev
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Have you seen this site: http://www.bygonebutlins.com
On the green strip on the left, there's a link to their forum - not terribly active but worth a try? The hills in the background rule out sone of their old locations and might jog someone's memory.
Carol
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Looks like it could be minehead
http://www.butlins-memories.com/minehead/postcards/id160.htm
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I had a look at images but as the camps more or less had the same layout I found it difficult to make up my mind.
My grandparents went to the same holiday resort for donkeys years and it wasn't the nearest one either, but I came across a website that gave travelling times from the Met Borough of London to Butlins camps in case it was relevant.
Here's what I found on one forum, where a poster had asked which Butlins was closest to London:
Which BUTLINS Holiday resort is the closest to london?
1 - BOGNOR REGIS.... Trains from London Victoria 1 hr 45 mins.
2 - SKEGNESS.
3 - MINEHEAD.... Minehead from London - National Express to Taunton 3.15hrs then bus to Minehead 1.50hrs.
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i'm sure it's minehead. This shot shows the hill:
http://www.butlins-memories.com/minehead/photos70s80s/id2.htm
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Thanks all for your replies, and yes dillybert, I think you may be right about Minehead, it does look very similar
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Great photos, they look very happy together. I do hope you can find Sid's name.
I wondered whether they might be buried together, though I'm guessing that cremation was more likely.
It seems that Butlins has an in-house archivist (and a nicely managed blog):
http://blog.butlins.com/2016/10/14/we-went-time-travelling-with-our-head-of-archive/
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Barking and Dagenham online burial records:
https://cemeteries.lbbd.gov.uk/Telesearch/?loggedin=true
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Rattus - It would have been helpful if Nan was buried with Sid, but she was buried her first husband (my natural Grand father, so I think I will need to get up to Dagenham to view the electoral registers post 65 as that looks to be the only way I will find his name!
Dillybert - thanks for this link - It will become useful when (if!) I get Sid's surname
Cheers
Kev