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Title: searching for birth of Andrew/Anthony Thomas 1887/1888
Post by: malijibic on Monday 05 March 18 09:21 GMT (UK)
What I have
1911 census
Andrew Thomas born Liverpool, aged 23, birth year  1887/1888
1901 census
Andrew Thomas age 13, born Liverpool   birth year 1887/1888
1891 census, same parents
Anthony Thomas age 3  born Liverpool,  birth year 1887/1888.

parents  John Thomas and Elizabeth Jones.
1911 census shows them married 21 years

I can not find birth certificate for Andrew or Anthony which fits. Any help appreciated.
Thank you
Title: Re: searching for birth of Andrew/Anthony Thomas 1887/1888
Post by: PaulineJ on Monday 05 March 18 09:36 GMT (UK)
Any other kids to this couple?

1891 census (wales) ? https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:457Q-VZM
This them in 1901 Wales?  https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9BC-5PC
Title: Re: searching for birth of Andrew/Anthony Thomas 1887/1888
Post by: PaulineJ on Monday 05 March 18 09:41 GMT (UK)
Erm, if they were wed 21y by 1911 is that not AFTER Anthony/andrews's birth?

JONES, ANTHONY       -     (no MMN)
GRO Reference: 1887  S Quarter in LIVERPOOL  Volume 08B  Page 53
Title: Re: searching for birth of Andrew/Anthony Thomas 1887/1888
Post by: KGarrad on Monday 05 March 18 11:19 GMT (UK)
Just be aware that the question on the 1911 census asks:
"Completed years the present marriage has lasted".

So given that figure of 21 years, the marriage would have been in the year ended 2nd April 1890.
Title: Re: searching for birth of Andrew/Anthony Thomas 1887/1888
Post by: malijibic on Monday 05 March 18 13:21 GMT (UK)
many thanks for all replies, I was called away from the computer this morning.
PaulineJ
That is the family, I am following Jane Ellen  I just would like to know if her brother was Andrew or Anthony
Have tried 1888+/- 2 yrs for the marriage.
Having another idea, Could Elizabeth have come back to Wales ?
Will hunt for a marriage in Carnarvonshire.
KGarrad
I did have exactly the same idea which is why I tried 1888+/-2 for the marriage.
Thank you both
Title: Re: searching for birth of Andrew/Anthony Thomas 1887/1888
Post by: malijibic on Monday 05 March 18 13:28 GMT (UK)
marriages  March 1890
DAVIES    Owen       Conway
Jones    Elizabeth         Conway   
Morris    Annie         Conway   
THOMAS    John                 Conway   


looks promising