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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Durham => Topic started by: tamarakel on Wednesday 07 March 18 10:14 GMT (UK)
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My Russell ancestors seem to have baptized in a church called Brooms Chapel? I believed it served Tynemouth, North Shields and Durham area, does anyone have any information on this Chapel, the siblings were baptized there from 1826-1830...
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Could it be this church in Leadgate, Co. Durham?
https://consettmagazine.com/2016/02/03/the-reformation-and-brooms-consett-history-67930/
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DUR/Lanchester/OurBlessedLadyandStJoseph
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Records are at Durham Record Office:
http://www.durhamrecordoffice.org.uk/article/11113?SearchType=Param&Variations=N&Parish=Pontop%20Hall%20Roman%20Catholic%20Chapel&OrderBy=NAME&ItemID=597779
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Could it be this church in Leadgate, Co. Durham?
https://consettmagazine.com/2016/02/03/the-reformation-and-brooms-consett-history-67930/
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DUR/Lanchester/OurBlessedLadyandStJoseph
Thank you so much for the info :) It very well might be, their first daughter was baptized in a jesuit church in durham, so there are no "broom" chapels in tynemouth or north shields? what does broom chapel mean? I'm in Canada and I'm Catholic, and I've never head of it...
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Records are at Durham Record Office:
http://www.durhamrecordoffice.org.uk/article/11113?SearchType=Param&Variations=N&Parish=Pontop%20Hall%20Roman%20Catholic%20Chapel&OrderBy=NAME&ItemID=597779
Thank you so much for this, I didn't realize I could look there as well
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twhat does broom chapel mean?
It was just the name of the place - The Brooms. Hence the Roman Catholic church there also simply became known locally as The Brooms (and is still known as such today).
At the time you mention, priests working from The Brooms travelled all over the north-east, and many of them went over to Tynemouth and North Shields to say Mass and conduct baptisms.
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Map :)
http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=16&lat=54.8638&lon=-1.7876&layers=6&right=BingHyb
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twhat does broom chapel mean?
It was just the name of the place - The Brooms. Hence the Roman Catholic church there also simply became known locally as The Brooms (and is still known as such today).
At the time you mention, priests working from The Brooms travelled all over the north-east, and many of them went over to Tynemouth and North Shields to say Mass and conduct baptisms.
Thank you for the clarification and that map is amazing thank you!
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Actually, I think they were baptised at St Cuthberts, North Shields. I'm not quite sure how The Brooms comes into it?
I see on the original record that the priest who conducted Charles' baptism was called Thomas Gillow.
He was parish priest at St Cuthbert North Shields. He was appointed there in the early 1820's and remained there for some 36 years. (source 'Down Your Aisles' a History of the (Roman Catholic) Diocese of Hexham and Newcastle.)
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I'm not quite sure how The Brooms comes into it?
You have misread the source information, which is this:
NORTHUMBERLAND: Tynemouth & North Shields (Roman Catholic): Baptisms & Marriages includes extracts for Brooms Chapel, Durham 1784-1809
They have both been baptised at North Shields. Brooms Chapel has nothing to do with it ;)
There simply happen to be some Brooms baptisms included in the record, which is mainly for North Shields.
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I'm not quite sure how The Brooms comes into it?
You have misread the source information, which is this:
NORTHUMBERLAND: Tynemouth & North Shields (Roman Catholic): Baptisms & Marriages includes extracts for Brooms Chapel, Durham 1784-1809
They have both been baptised at North Shields. Brooms Chapel has nothing to do with it ;)
There simply happen to be some Brooms baptisms included in the record, which is mainly for North Shields.
That totally makes more sense to me...the document which was on Ancestry says this "Piece 3751: Tynemouth, North Shields, Durham, Brooms Chapel (Roman Catholic), 1784-1809, 1821-1839"
So I assumed it was a Brooms Chapel...so it was indeed Cuthberts?
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.the document which was on Ancestry says this "Piece 3751: Tynemouth, North Shields, Durham, Brooms Chapel (Roman Catholic), 1784-1809, 1821-1839"
It's always safer to check on the original cataloguing :) the quote I gave was from the National Archives http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C2492608
so it was indeed Cuthberts
Yes. St Cuthberts, North Shields. The church building was officially opened in 1821, but the Roman Catholic community was in existence well before that.
However, this didn't necessarily mean that your family lived in North Shields. Apparently St Cuthberts was used by Roman Catholics from a wide area, north and south of the Tyne until they had churches of their own. Those crossing from south of the river apparently formed a committee and hired their own boat to cut the costs of crossing the Tyne sometimes twice a day.
a Brooms Chapel
As I said before, the church in question (which we now know to be irrelevant to your enquiry ;D ) was known as 'The Brooms'.
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.the document which was on Ancestry says this "Piece 3751: Tynemouth, North Shields, Durham, Brooms Chapel (Roman Catholic), 1784-1809, 1821-1839"
It's always safer to check on the original cataloguing :) the quote I gave was from the National Archives http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C2492608
so it was indeed Cuthberts
Yes. St Cuthberts, North Shields. The church building was officially opened in 1821, but the Roman Catholic community was in existence well before that.
However, this didn't necessarily mean that your family lived in North Shields. Apparently St Cuthberts was used by Roman Catholics from a wide area, north and south of the Tyne until they had churches of their own. Those crossing from south of the river apparently formed a committee and hired their own boat to cut the costs of crossing the Tyne sometimes twice a day.
a Brooms Chapel
As I said before, the church in question (which we now know to be irrelevant to your enquiry ;D ) was known as 'The Brooms'.
Thank you for clearing that up and your help :)
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Actually, I think they were baptised at St Cuthberts, North Shields. I'm not quite sure how The Brooms comes into it?
I see on the original record that the priest who conducted Charles' baptism was called Thomas Gillow.
He was parish priest at St Cuthbert North Shields. He was appointed there in the early 1820's and remained there for some 36 years. (source 'Down Your Aisles' a History of the (Roman Catholic) Diocese of Hexham and Newcastle.)
Memorial to Rev. Thomas Gillow + members of his family at Kirkham Catholic church.
www.stonechaser.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/kirkham-catholic-church.html