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Hi
I am hoping someone here can help me with a puzzle regarding my ancestor Thomas Wayt who lived in Eastcott, Swindon. Thomas wrote his Will in 1721 and in it he mentions his wife Mary and also refers to his wife's 'late mother' and states that she [Mary's mother] left a Will. Unfortunately I don't know what Mary's maiden name was as I haven't been able to find a marriage for Thomas and Mary, and without this name I am having problems finding the Will of Mary's mother.
Thomas was christened in January 1651 so I suspect that they were probably married between 1669 and 1680 (I know that their son Richard was christened in 1681).
Thomas had six children, Mary, Thomas, Richard, Sibbell, Anne, and Sarah. Sarah is apparently named in the Will of Mary's mother.
The only marriage I can find for a Thomas Wayt to a Mary is as follows:
Thomas Wait and Marie Pirs - 22 Oct 1694 Trowbridge (St James).
This is after the christening of Thomas's daughter Sarah who was christened in Swindon on 3 July 1694. Unfortunately the christening only records her father's name (Thomas) and this is the same for the christenings of Anne (Feb 1691), Sibbell (Oct 1689), and Richard (1681). So far I haven't found the christenings of Mary (who I suspect may be an older child), and Thomas (possibly an oldest son).
There is a Mary Wait christened in Rowde in Sept 1687 to Thomas and Anne Wait and there is a gap between the christenings of Richard (1681) and Sibbell (1689) where this could fit. There is also a christening in that parish for Thomas Wait in Sept 1689 although that makes no sense if Thomas had a daughter named Sibbell christened in Swindon in Oct 1689 [Thomas's mother was named Sibyl so it makes sense that one of his daughters had this name]. Rowde and Swindon seem to far apart for these people to be the same family. Also the Thomas and Anne in Rowde seem to have been having children christened these right up to about 1700.
If anyone is able to help me track down the marriage of Thomas and Mary it might help me establish
[1] who her mother was
[2] confirm that she was the mother of Thomas's children.
Thanks
Matt
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I have found a couple of things that might help in your search. There is information on Thomas Wayt b. 1/1650 Wiltshire, married 19/6/1679 to Mary Baker at Stratton St Margaret church, Wilts. Died 1/1721-buried 28/1/1721 at Christchurch with St Mary church, Wilts. His father was Nicholas Wayt, mother Sibyl Hayward.
The other info. I found was possibly for his son, (1) Wayte, Richard, yeoman, of Eastcott,par Swindon, son of Thos Wayte, decsd (2) This is how it is written on The National Archives site however it states that the record is not held there, but is held at Wilts and Swindon History Centre. Not sure what info. is on the record, but might be worth checking out.
regards.
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I have found a couple of things that might help in your search. There is information on Thomas Wayt b. 1/1650 Wiltshire, married 19/6/1679 to Mary Baker at Stratton St Margaret church, Wilts. Died 1/1721-buried 28/1/1721 at Christchurch with St Mary church, Wilts. His father was Nicholas Wayt, mother Sibyl Hayward.
The other info. I found was possibly for his son, (1) Wayte, Richard, yeoman, of Eastcott,par Swindon, son of Thos Wayte, decsd (2) This is how it is written on The National Archives site however it states that the record is not held there, but is held at Wilts and Swindon History Centre. Not sure what info. is on the record, but might be worth checking out.
regards.
Hi
Thanks for that info. This all seems to fit with what I've got already. I have a copy of Sibbell Wayt's Will but unfortunately that doesn't tell me much apart from the fact that she had a daughter named Grace Little and a son named Thomas. She mentions her grandchildren but not by name.
How far are Stratton and Christchurch from Swindon?
I'll definitely be following these up as it certainly looks to be the right people.
Thanks again
Matt
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The centre of Swindon old town, which is all there was in 1721 is about 3 miles, maybe less from Stratton St, Margaret parish church
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The centre of Swindon old town, which is all there was in 1721 is about 3 miles, maybe less from Stratton St, Margaret parish church
Thanks for that. I'm following up these leads now.
The burial date you mentioned can't be for the right Thomas as I have his Will and this is dated 16 May 1721. Also the Will was proved on 12 July 1736 so I think it's more likely Thomas died in the 1730s. If he did die in 1721 why did it take so long to get the Will proved?
I'm trying to establish when/where Mary Baker and Sibyl Hayward might have been born.
There is a Mary Baker christened in Broad Hinton in Aug 1648 and another Mary christened in Warminster in Feb 1661. I'm not sure if either of these are relevent but they are the only ones I have found so far.
As for Sybil Hayward, the only one I have found that looks like a possibility date wise is this:
Sibbell Hayward christened 1 Dec 1633 Melksham, Wiltshire - again I'm not sure how far that is from the Swindon area.
Anyhow this does give me a few more names and lines of enquiry to check out.
Thanks again
Matt
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About 20 miles as the crow flies, maybe 25-30 by road
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About 20 miles as the crow flies, maybe 25-30 by road
Thanks for that. Probably a little too far away but I'll keep them in mind.
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I have found a couple of things that might help in your search. There is information on Thomas Wayt b. 1/1650 Wiltshire, married 19/6/1679 to Mary Baker at Stratton St Margaret church, Wilts. Died 1/1721-buried 28/1/1721 at Christchurch with St Mary church, Wilts. His father was Nicholas Wayt, mother Sibyl Hayward.
The other info. I found was possibly for his son, (1) Wayte, Richard, yeoman, of Eastcott,par Swindon, son of Thos Wayte, decsd (2) This is how it is written on The National Archives site however it states that the record is not held there, but is held at Wilts and Swindon History Centre. Not sure what info. is on the record, but might be worth checking out.
regards.
Do you know when/where Nicholas Wayt and Sibyl Hayward married? Where did you find her name btw?
Matt
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Hi MattD30,
I've just looked at the Stratton St.Margaret's transcripts on the Wilts-opc website and the marriage 19-6-1679 is for a Thomas Wright to Mary Baker.
Sorry to be the bearer of this news.
Alan
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Matt, I think the info paco found came from here
http://www.skliar-ward.com/family/humo_/F4683/I7329/
Has Mary Baker born 16 Feb 1657/8 at Stratton St Margaret (Bater on ancestry)
John
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I've just looked at the Stratton St.Margaret's transcripts on the Wilts-opc website and the marriage 19-6-1679 is for a Thomas Wright to Mary Baker.
Looking at both the parish register and the BT on ancestry, I think it says Weight
John
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The will of the father is certainly findable on ancestry
Richard Baker of Eastcott in the parish of Swindon
Written 1685?
Names daughter Mary, wife of Thomas Waight
and grandchildren Mary Waight, Margarett Waight, Richard Waight.
Executors wife Mary Baker, son in law Thomas Waight
John
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Hi MattD30,
I've just looked at the Stratton St.Margaret's transcripts on the Wilts-opc website and the marriage 19-6-1679 is for a Thomas Wright to Mary Baker.
Sorry to be the bearer of this news.
Alan
Hi Alan
I spotted that too but suspect it could be a typo. I've seen the name spelt Wayt, Wayte, Wait, Waite, and a few other ways.
I can't be sure this is the right marriage yet but it's still one to investigate.
Matt
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I've just looked at the Stratton St.Margaret's transcripts on the Wilts-opc website and the marriage 19-6-1679 is for a Thomas Wright to Mary Baker.
Looking at both the parish register and the BT on ancestry, I think it says Weight
John
Hi John
Thanks for checking those registers and for the website link you sent. Weight would seem a closer variation of Wayt/Wait.
The fact that Mary Baker was apparently christened in Stratton St Margaret in 1657/58 fits as well given the fact that Thomas and Mary married in that parish.
I've looked at the website you sent the link for and I think this will be useful as it lists lots of sources. I've already go a copy of Thomas Wayt's Will, but I've not got Richard Baker's Will. Oddly I have just been at the library looking on Ancestry for possible Baker wills - unfortunately the search brought up a lot of results so I didn't get a chance to look at them all. I'll check this one next time I'm there.
This all seems to establish Mary's line but I'm still puzzled over Nicholas Wayt and Sybil Hayward (parents of Thomas Wayt). Thomas was born in 1650 so I am inclined to think that Nicholas and Sybil were born in the 1620s or 1630s.
Anyhow back to the notes later.
Matt
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The will of the father is certainly findable on ancestry
Richard Baker of Eastcott in the parish of Swindon
Written 1685?
Names daughter Mary, wife of Thomas Waight
and grandchildren Mary Waight, Margarett Waight, Richard Waight.
Executors wife Mary Baker, son in law Thomas Waight
John
Hi John
Thanks for letting me know about Richard's Will, I've just downloaded it from Ancestry. I've spotted that he also appears to mention an uncle and some brothers and nephews and nieces, as well as his wife, children and grandchildren, so these will be lines to follow up.
I haven't been able to find a Will for his widow, Mary Baker, though. I know from the Will of Thomas Wayt that Mary left a Will as he mentions it in his Will of 1721.
I couldn't find a Will for a Mary Baker between 1685 and 1721 in the Swindon area today. Do you think she might have remarried?
Matt
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Hi Matt
It's a puzzle. She could have remarried, I'm struggling to find an obvious one.
They don't seem to have the burial of Richard Baker on there (indexed anyway). He's in the Wiltshire Memorial Inscription Index, Stratton St Margaret, with a date of 18 Sep 1686 given (presumably his date of death). No mention of Mary.
If she didn't remarry, a burial of a Mary Baker in Swindon, 24 April 1707
And one in Stratton, 9 October 1708. Some other ladies there are described just as "widow", not her though.
I'd have thought Sarah would have got her money well before Thomas made his will in 1721, even if she had to be 21 or something like that. Unless Mary was only recently dead, she'd have had to be 85 plus though?
John
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They have Wiltshire Wills and Probate Index 1530-1881 on findmypast. That hasn't found the will either (if Mary stayed as Baker)
The index on the Wiltshire and Swindon History Centre website has sadly been removed.
I think we can only see the original wills online. It would be good to have the Probate Act books, in case any original wills have been lost.
Also looked PCC and not promising either.
John
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Hi
I've had a read through of Richard Baker's Will and it looks like he names the following people -
His daughter Mary [described as "the wife of Thomas Weight"]
His granddaughter Mary Waight
His granddaughter Margaret Waight
His grandson Richard Waight
His uncle Edward [I'm not sure of the surname]
His brother Lemuel Baker
His brother Francis Baker
Mary Baker and Thomas Baker - the children of his brother Francis Baker
His kinswoman Ann Baker [or Booker]
John Baker, Martha Baker, Mary Baker, and Ann Baker - the children of his brother Lemuel Baker.
His wife Mary.
I've found three children for Lemuel [who is also transcribed as Samuel on one entry]
John - chr 25 March 1665 Stratton St Margaret
Richard - chr 13 Mar 1667 Stratton St Margaret
Anne - chr 4 Apr 1673 Stratton St Margaret
Sadly no sign of Martha or Mary though.
The only burial I have found for Mary Baker [Richard's widow] is in 1708 so I'll follow that up. As for Lemuel, it looks like he died in 1710 as there is a burial on 16 Dec 1710 in Stratton for "Lemuel Baker"
I can't find Francis though.
I've tried to attach snippets from Richard's Will in which he names his uncle and brothers but for some odd reason the 'attachments box' isn't showing when I click on "Attachments and other options" so I will try to add them in a separate post.
Matt
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For some reason the "Attachment and other options" is still now working. Does anyone know why this is?
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Hi Matt
I don't know why you can attach images, but I've got hold of a copy of Richard's will.
Very interesting!
There may be missing burials in Stratton though, I am not sure we will find his one. Why is his wife Mary not on the memorial?
Unless Mary did marry again (and left Wiltshire!) and made a will with her new name, or her will was not proved, then I am at a loss as to how we can find it!
John
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Hi John
Yes it is odd that Rootschat won't let me add an attachments, I tried again tonight and I am still having problems. I will send Rootschat a message to see if there is a problem.
Can you see the bit where Richard mentions his uncle and brothers? If not I can send you a cropped image with those names on [via PM]. His uncle's first name is definitely Edward but I'm not sure of the surname. As for his brothers, those are definitely Lemuel and Francis. I've found three children christened to Lemuel in Stratton St Margaret in the 1660s and 1670s
John Baker chr 25 March 1665
Richard Baker chr 13 March 1667
Anne Baker chr 4 April 1673
I've also found what looks like Lemuel's burial in Stratton St Margaret on 16 April 1710. There is a burial on 9 October 1708 for a Mary Baker in Stratton St Margaret who might be either Lemuel's wife or possibly Richard's widow [and therefore Thomas Wayte's wife's mother]. I've not found a Will yet but that gives me a starting point for a date.
Maybe Mary is buried elsewhere and that's why her name isn't on the memorial, or perhaps it was errected later by someone in the family with more money (or perhaps a related family such as the Villetts).
Matt
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I think Richard Baker's uncle might be Edward Brunsdon. I've just found a marriage in Stratton St Margaret in 1673 for Edward Brunsdon and Ann Butler.
If this is the case then Richard's mother might well be a Brunsdon or a Butler. Alternatively Edward might be a cousin or in-law rather than an 'uncle' in the modern sense. I think it might be worth looking to see if I can find a Will for Edward or Ann to see if that gives any clues.
Matt
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http://www.skliar-ward.com/media/Mary%20Wayt%20Swindon.PNG
From the link in post #9
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http://www.skliar-ward.com/media/Mary%20Wayt%20Swindon.PNG
From the link in post #9
I have a photo of that memorial myself from when I visited Swindon a few years ago. It is probably one of my favourite memorials
Matt
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Hi Matt
You have done a good job on the will, and I agree about the name of Richard's uncle Edward. I am not sure though how he is an uncle! No doubt all will be revealed in time.
John
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Hi Matt
You have done a good job on the will, and I agree about the name of Richard's uncle Edward. I am not sure though how he is an uncle! No doubt all will be revealed in time.
John
Hi John
The only way I can see Edward being an uncle in the way we would use the term, is if either Richard's mother was a Butler or Brunsen or if he was an uncle by marriage [in other words married to a sister of Richard's mother or father].
In other words
Richard's mother might have been a Brunsdon before she married and became a Baker, with Edward being her brother. Therefore he would be an uncle by marriage.
Alternatively Richard's mother might be a Butler who had a sister named Ann who was married to Edward Brunsdon. This again would make Edward Richard's uncle by marriage.
The Will is really clear to read in places which is good as it makes it easier to study the words. I'm now working on the Inventory which again is really clear and fairly long.
If I can find a Will or other documentation related to the Brunsdon name or possibly the Butler name this might provide some more clues about Richard Baker.
More investigation required I think
Matt
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Interesting to see someone else trying to piece together the Wayt family.
Is there any reason for you discounting Mary Hickes as Richard Baker's wife?
There is a 1655 marriage at Stratton St Margaret for Richard Baker and Mary Hickes. It seems to fit given we know Richard's wife was called Mary, and given that Richard's children were born around 1655 in Stratton Margaret (e.g. Mary, probable wife of Thomas Wayt, was born there in 1657). I have also not yet been able to find Mary Hickes's baptism or will. She is described as of "Rodbourne" in her marriage record. Presumably Rodbourne Cheney given there is a Katherine Hickes who marries at Rodbourne Cheney in 1661.
I am reasonably comfortable that Richard Baker was the son of another Richard Baker - there's a 1622 baptism record at Stratton St Margaret which seems to fit.
Ben
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Also - there's some nice evidence showing that the Bakers did marry into the Wayte family (outside the PRs) - see 1461/1750 and 1461/1736 on TNA catalogue, showing land being acquired by Mary, wife of Richard Baker, and then being in the possession of Thomas Wayt, brother of Richard Wayt.
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Interesting to see someone else trying to piece together the Wayt family.
Is there any reason for you discounting Mary Hickes as Richard Baker's wife?
There is a 1655 marriage at Stratton St Margaret for Richard Baker and Mary Hickes. It seems to fit given we know Richard's wife was called Mary, and given that Richard's children were born around 1655 in Stratton Margaret (e.g. Mary, probable wife of Thomas Wayt, was born there in 1657). I have also not yet been able to find Mary Hickes's baptism or will. She is described as of "Rodbourne" in her marriage record. Presumably Rodbourne Cheney given there is a Katherine Hickes who marries at Rodbourne Cheney in 1661.
I am reasonably comfortable that Richard Baker was the son of another Richard Baker - there's a 1622 baptism record at Stratton St Margaret which seems to fit.
Ben
Hi Ben
I hadn't discounted Mary Hickes as Richard Baker's wife myself and I'm pretty sure this is the right marriage. What I've so far not been able to find is a christening for Mary Hickes.
There is a Mary Hickes christened on 4 September 1631 in Highworth - the daughter of John Hickes.
I can't prove it yet but it is possible she is the Mary who married Richard Baker. Highworth isn't that far away.
I've not come across the Rodbourne reference yet so I'll follow that lead up to see where it leads. Could Rodbourne [or Rodbourne Cheney] be near Highworth?
I haven't come across the 1622 christening of Richard Baker in Stratton St Margaret yet myself. I agree this is a strong contender. Do you know if there are any other children christened there?
Any idea where Richard Baker senior was married or where he might have been from?
More to follow soon.
Matt
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Interesting to see someone else trying to piece together the Wayt family.
Is there any reason for you discounting Mary Hickes as Richard Baker's wife?
There is a 1655 marriage at Stratton St Margaret for Richard Baker and Mary Hickes. It seems to fit given we know Richard's wife was called Mary, and given that Richard's children were born around 1655 in Stratton Margaret (e.g. Mary, probable wife of Thomas Wayt, was born there in 1657). I have also not yet been able to find Mary Hickes's baptism or will. She is described as of "Rodbourne" in her marriage record. Presumably Rodbourne Cheney given there is a Katherine Hickes who marries at Rodbourne Cheney in 1661.
I am reasonably comfortable that Richard Baker was the son of another Richard Baker - there's a 1622 baptism record at Stratton St Margaret which seems to fit.
Ben
Hi Ben
Is Rodbourne Cheyney near Swindon? I've just been looking at a Will of Grace White in which she appears to describe herself as being "of Even Swindon in the parish of Rodborne Cheyney in the county of Wiltshire".
If Swindon and Rodbourne Cheyney are close then it's possible that the Katherine Hickes who you found marrying in that parish in 1661 might be Mary's sister. It give me a place to start looking at least.
Matt
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Also - there's some nice evidence showing that the Bakers did marry into the Wayte family (outside the PRs) - see 1461/1750 and 1461/1736 on TNA catalogue, showing land being acquired by Mary, wife of Richard Baker, and then being in the possession of Thomas Wayt, brother of Richard Wayt.
I've not come across the first one of these myself but agree it looks like strong evidence. The second reference [1461/1736] is for a Deed of Settlement dated 17 June 1680 and held at the Wiltshire and Swindon Archives. The description on TNA catalogue state:
"By which Richard Baker yeoman of Stratton St Margaret covenants for John Hughes the younger yeoman of Walcott to stand seized of Culvering Heys, Down Hick Heys, 5 acres meadow in Eastcott, the Paddock (2 acres) and 2 acres meadow in Eastcott Mead: to the use of Mary wife of Richard Baker."
I wonder if these lands were then passed on to the Wayt family through the marriage of Richard and Mary's daughter Mary to Thomas Wayt?
Matt
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Rodbourne Cheyney is to the west of Strattion St Margaret and Highworth is to the north of Stratton St Margaret. Rodbourne Cheyney is north west of Swindon town centre although it is part of Swindon now.Maybe 2 mile or so from the town centre. Even Swindon is/was just next to/between Rodbourne Cheyney and Swindon. It is now Rodbourne, although there is a Even Swindon school and there used to be a Even Swindon working mans club, not sure if it is still there.
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Hi MattD30,
My wife came from Swindon and I remember her parents often referred to parishes in & around Swindon including Rodbourne Cheney which is now part of Swindon - see here;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodbourne
Alan
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There are several things to consider, and I have been guilty of not doing so. At the time in question, Swindon was little more than a village on top of the hill, Eascott was a parish on the north side of the hill and down into the land below. It was sparsely populated.
Stratton St, Margaret was much bigger in area than it is now, it included Gorse Hill and Penhill, both now part of Swindon. It also in the east it followed the Roman Ermin street north to south [more or less] for about 3 or 4 miles [may have been more].
Rodbourne Cheyney was also not heavily populated and to the west of Gorse Hill and I would say south west of Penhill. Even Swindon, now Rodbourne, was to the south/ south west of Rodbourne Cheyney and to the north west/north of Eastcott. I don't think there was another parish between Eastcott and Even Swindon/Rodbourne & rodbourne Cheyney.
A good idea would be to look at a present day map and see the areas mentioned and envision them has they were at the time.
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From the Wiltshire OPC site;
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ls3/
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There are several things to consider, and I have been guilty of not doing so. At the time in question, Swindon was little more than a village on top of the hill, Eascott was a parish on the north side of the hill and down into the land below. It was sparsely populated.
Stratton St, Margaret was much bigger in area than it is now, it included Gorse Hill and Penhill, both now part of Swindon. It also in the east it followed the Roman Ermin street north to south [more or less] for about 3 or 4 miles [may have been more].
Rodbourne Cheyney was also not heavily populated and to the west of Gorse Hill and I would say south west of Penhill. Even Swindon, now Rodbourne, was to the south/ south west of Rodbourne Cheyney and to the north west/north of Eastcott. I don't think there was another parish between Eastcott and Even Swindon/Rodbourne & rodbourne Cheyney.
A good idea would be to look at a present day map and see the areas mentioned and envision them has they were at the time.
Definitely gives us lots of areas within what we could now term 'the Swindon area' to investigate.
As you say looking at a present day map is a good idea and I will try and do that and compare it with a contemporary map [or as close as I can find].
Matt
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Rodbourne Cheyney is to the west of Strattion St Margaret and Highworth is to the north of Stratton St Margaret. Rodbourne Cheyney is north west of Swindon town centre although it is part of Swindon now.Maybe 2 mile or so from the town centre. Even Swindon is/was just next to/between Rodbourne Cheyney and Swindon. It is now Rodbourne, although there is a Even Swindon school and there used to be a Even Swindon working mans club, not sure if it is still there.
So it looks like all these areas are worth looking at. As you say Rodbourne Cheyney is part of Swindon, now, but back then it was separate although close to it. It's the same with some parts of Watford where I live.
I'm now inclined to focus my search on Rodbourne Cheyney, and Highworth, as well as Stratton St Margaret and Swindon. Swindon seems to be the main area for the Wayts [including the Eastcott area], whereas Stratton St Margaret appears to be the main area where the Bakers are located.
Off to the library now to see what more I can find.....
Matt
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Highworth registration district included New Swindon until 1898, if I am correct, when the 2 Swindons joined and formed Swindon.
Stratton St Margaret was also in Highworth district, and the other parishes we have discussed also.
Being that we are in the 1700s Highworth at the time was a much more important and larger town than Swindon
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Interesting to see someone else trying to piece together the Wayt family.
Is there any reason for you discounting Mary Hickes as Richard Baker's wife?
There is a 1655 marriage at Stratton St Margaret for Richard Baker and Mary Hickes. It seems to fit given we know Richard's wife was called Mary, and given that Richard's children were born around 1655 in Stratton Margaret (e.g. Mary, probable wife of Thomas Wayt, was born there in 1657). I have also not yet been able to find Mary Hickes's baptism or will. She is described as of "Rodbourne" in her marriage record. Presumably Rodbourne Cheney given there is a Katherine Hickes who marries at Rodbourne Cheney in 1661.
I am reasonably comfortable that Richard Baker was the son of another Richard Baker - there's a 1622 baptism record at Stratton St Margaret which seems to fit.
Ben
A visit to the library today has revealed some more Baker connections. As well as finding the christening of Richard Baker [son of Richard] in Stratton St Margaret on 12 October 1622, I also found the following who I suspect are his siblings:
Margaret Baker - chr 30 November 1624 Stratton St Margaret
John Baker - chr 19 October 1634 Stratton St Margaret
Francis Baker [female] - chr 3 June 1638.
Margaret is described as the daughter of Richard Baker, whilst John is descfribed as the son of Richard and Winifred Baker - possibly hinting at the name of Richard and Margaret's mother [unless they were born to a first wife].
On the other hand Francis is described as the "daughter of Winesfred Baker widow" so she may not be Richard's sibling.
The other odd thing is that I couldn't find a christening for Richard's two brothers, Francis Baker and Lemuel Baker, both of whom he mentions in his Will. It is possible they were born in a different parish.
I did find the christenings of four of Lemuel's children however: Martha (1663), John (1665/66), Richard (1667) and Anne (1673) all christened in Stratton St Margaret. I haven't found Lemuel's marriage, christening or burial though.
There is also an Ann Baker born in 1673 to Daniel Baker and it's possible that he is another relative of Richard, Lemuel, and Francis.
As far as marriages for Richard Baker senior go, I haven't found any marriage to Winifred. The only marriages I have found in the right time frame (roughly 1610-1625) are as follows:
Richard Baker and Margarytt Adams - 7 October 1615 - Calne (St Mary), Wiltshire
Richard Baker and Dorothie Hawkins - 20 November 1620 - Christian Malford, Wiltshire
Both look a bit too far away to be the right marriage, but it is possible Richard moved to the Stratton area after he was married.
Sadly I had no luck tracing Mary Hicks though.
Matt
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Interesting - I think I agree that there are probably some siblings there.
I have started to trawl all the relevant wills (time permitting) to see if there is anything useful as I am at dead ends with the Wayt and collateral lines... While, so far, nothing that useful to the Wayts, it has shown some interesting links for other families I was looking at.
In case anyone you're interested in the detail - I have uploaded current progress to: http://www.skliar-ward.com/misc/Wills.htm.
It's rather time consuming so probably won't complete it any time soon.
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Interesting - I think I agree that there are probably some siblings there.
I have started to trawl all the relevant wills (time permitting) to see if there is anything useful as I am at dead ends with the Wayt and collateral lines... While, so far, nothing that useful to the Wayts, it has shown some interesting links for other families I was looking at.
In case anyone you're interested in the detail - I have uploaded current progress to: http://www.skliar-ward.com/misc/Wills.htm.
It's rather time consuming so probably won't complete it any time soon.
Hi
I'm currently putting together a database of all the relevant christenings, marriages and burials for the Bakers, Wayts and Keens in the relevant area as well as a summary of all the Wills I've examined.
More to follow....
Matt
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I had a look on Ancestry and FindmyPast today to see if I could find a christening for Mary Hicks. I did a search from c1610 to c1638 and searched for her in Rodbourne Cheney and Swindon without luck.
There is a Mary Hick christened in Millicent Tregzod [spelt wrong I think lol!] in the 1620s and of course there is the 1631 in Highworth.
I also had a look for a christening or burial/Will of Daniel Baker and also any sign of any marriages for Daniel, Lemuel, Francis, or Richard snr. Again no luck.
It may be that Richard snr was married outside Stratton St Margaret.
Matt
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I've been doing some more digging on Mary Hicks today and there appear to be two candidates. There is the above mentioned Marie Hicks christened in Highworth on 4 September 1631 (daughter of John Hicks) and then three years later there is a Marie Hicks daughter of Justinian Hicks (or Hucks) christened on 20 April 1634.
I can't find a burial for either Marie yet so it's hard to work out which, if either, could be mine. John and Justinian could possibly be brothers though. Justinian appears to have married Alicia Haskins in Highworth in 1611.
Justinian and Alicia appear to have had the following children (in all cases the surname is spelt Hucks, or Huckes)
Alexander - 1612
John - 1618
Edith - 1623
Elizabeth - 1626
Marie - 1634
These were all christened in Highworth.
I've also found another child of John Hicks:
Anne Hicks - daughter of John - christened 22 March 1628 Highworth.
I certainly think these are worth investigating.
Matt