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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Topic started by: softly softly on Wednesday 07 March 18 17:32 GMT (UK)
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Hi, trying to help a friend with this gentleman. Frederick was born 1888 in the Crickhowell reg dist. He appers on the 1891 census there. Can anyone please give me details of the census and who else is in the household. Cannot find him in 1901. He marries in 1913 and from there on my friend has details.
Thanks
John
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Is this the one you mean
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:4TNF-4W2
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That,s the one I thought it was but mother would have been 51 when he was born, not impossible but unlikely.
John
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The birth registration does not show a mothers maiden name (possibly illegitimate)
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp
I suspect he is probably grandson, not son
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there is a marriage in the neighbouring registration district of Bedwellty in june qtr 1894 vol 11a pg 156 for Elizabeth Rouse with George William Watkins and John Davies the 2 males on the page.
1901 census 69 King Street, Brynmawr RG13/5174 folio 110 pg 2
Elizabeth Davies head widow 40 greengrocer
Rees H Trivett son 21 coal miner - hewer
Frederick Davies son 13 coal miner - helper
William J Davies son 6
all born Brynmawr
birth reg
William John Davies march qtr 1895 Crickhowell vol 11b pg 103 mother's maiden name Rouse
Previous census page and still at 69 King St are William & Jane Rouse.
More than one John Davies death reg in Crickhowell but could be dec qtr 1896 aged 39
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He marries in 1913 and from there on my friend has details.
Who does the marriage name as his father
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think he marries as Rouse to Edith M Bevan.
Burial in Beaufort for Edith May Rouse aged 35 7 June 1929 of 14 Primitive Place, Beaufort. Minister conducting the burial was Primitive Methodist.
Burial in Beaufort for Frederick Rouse aged 72 22 April 1960 of 8 Pantmynydd, Beaufort, by a Methodist minister
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there is a marriage in the neighbouring registration district of Bedwellty in june qtr 1894 vol 11a pg 156 for Elizabeth Rouse with George William Watkins and John Davies the 2 males on the page.
1901 census 69 King Street, Brynmawr RG13/5174 folio 110 pg 2
Elizabeth Davies head widow 40 greengrocer
Rees H Trivett son 21 coal miner - hewer
Frederick Davies son 13 coal miner - helper
William J Davies son 6
all born Brynmawr
birth reg
William John Davies march qtr 1895 Crickhowell vol 11b pg 103 mother's maiden name Rouse
Previous census page and still at 69 King St are William & Jane Rouse.
More than one John Davies death reg in Crickhowell but could be dec qtr 1896 aged 39
Mmm - not sure why she marries as Elizabeth Rouse. Following son Rees from 1901, here's 1881
Rees Trivett 25
Elizabeth Trivett 20
Rees Trivett 1
Catherine Trivett
RG11, 5464, 70, 20
Young Rees & Catherine have mmn Rouse. Rees & Elizabeth married Q1 1880 (spelled Trevett)
Catherine dies in infancy. A second Catherine is b 1882. There's a potential other child William b Bradford in 1890 (surname spelled Triffett)
Cant find any trace of Rees snr again or the others on 1891
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she'd reverted to Rouse by the 1891 census in Brynmawr and Frederick was registered as Rouse in june qtr 1888.
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Thanks to all who have so far contributed to this post. I am recovering at present from major surgery and must confess I'm struggling to follow replies and who's who. Would someone kindly precise down the results as to who the parentage of Frederick Rouse is , what half siblings/siblings he had. I hope you do not mind this request.
John
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Mother Elizabeth Rouse had
1. son Rees Henry Trivett march qtr 1880 with husband Rees
2. daughter Catherine Ann Trefitt june qtr 1881, died dec qtr 1881
3. daughter Catherine Jane Trivett sept qtr 1882 - possible death as Catherine Rouse 0 march qtr 1883, no birth reg in this name
4. son Frederick Rouse june qtr 1888
5. William John Davies march qtr 1895
hope this helps
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Thanks to all who have contributed to this post and been patient with me. I've put together all the info and now made sense of it I think. Would others like to comment on my additional findings. Elizabeth Rouse, parents William and Jane is really Jane Elizabeth born 1861. After having 3 children with Rees Trivett he disappears after c 1882-3. Jane the has another son out of wedlock -Frederick Rouse 1888. She then marries John Davies in 1894 etc etc. Can anyone find Rees senior after 1882-3. Just to add that Rees Trevett went to the USA in 1882, met a Margaret Griffiths and by 1900 had 5 children with her. He died 1916.
Thanks
John
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yes, Elizabeth was registered as Jane Elizabeth same as her mother. She was baptised 7 April 1861 in Nantyglo, daughter of William & Jane Elizabeth living in Brynmawr. It would appear that Rees was still around before the birth of the second Catherine, the name appears to come from the Trivett side of the family as Rees had a younger sister with that name. But there's a possible death registration for her as Rouse in 1883.
Susan Trivett, the widowed mother of Rees, remarried dec qtr 1883 to George Grice. I can't find them on the 1891 census either, but a widowed Susan Grice is on the 1901.
No sign of Rees after 1882 but you have him in the US after that.
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Susan Trivett, the widowed mother of Rees, remarried dec qtr 1883 to George Grice. I can't find them on the 1891 census either, but a widowed Susan Grice is on the 1901.
Clydach Dingle, Llangattock
George Grice 43 - coal miner b Beaufort
Susan Grice 42 - b Clydach
Catherine Grice 22 - b CLydach
Piece 4575, Folio 52, p1