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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lancashire => Topic started by: mlmcholm on Thursday 08 March 18 09:44 GMT (UK)
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Hi. I am trying to find the parents of Fred Stansfield Lord. His birth registration gives his Mothers maiden name as Lord. So no help there! His middle name puzzles me. Is there a Stansfield family connection? Have tried to find a marriage between a Lord and Stansfield that would fit, but haven't come up with anything. Can someone please give me any clues? Many thanks.
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BOTH Lord and Stansfield are popular surnames in the area.
I suggest that you purchase the birth certificate and work from that, once you have full names for the parent(s) . You've 20 or so Lord-Lord births on that date, so it's nigh on impossible to sort them into family units.
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If the index gives his mother's maiden name as Lord,then I suspect that he was indeed illegitimate.
As Pauline said the only way to find out is to purchase hius birth cert,available as a PDF for £6 now fromt he official GRO site.
You could of course wait till 2nd Jan 2022 when we hope the 1921 census will be released ;D
Have you found him on the 1939 register yet?
Carol
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Manchester School Admissions:
Oldham St Marys School
Fred S Lord, date of birth 11th October 1913. Parent/Guardian: Christopher. Address:1/1 Lord Street.
Date of Admission:1st July 1920 Infants Dept. Date of leaving:8th July 1921 St Peters.
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1st July 1925
St Marys CofE Admissions Oldham
Fred S Lord, 11th October 1913.Parent: Christopher. Address:1H 1C Off Lord Street. School last attended: St Peters C of E, Oldham Date of leaving:23rd December 1927 Age exempt
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Thanks everyone. The school record is interesting. Something to work on! Much appreciated.
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If the index gives his mother's maiden name as Lord,then I suspect that he was indeed illegitimate.
As Pauline said the only way to find out is to purchase hius birth cert,available as a PDF for £6 now fromt he official GRO site.
You could of course wait till 2nd Jan 2022 when we hope the 1921 census will be released ;D
Have you found him on the 1939 register yet?
Carol
Thanks Carol. No I haven't found him on the register, but I believe he was in the forces in ww2. Would this make him exempt?
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Manchester School Admissions:
Oldham St Marys School
Fred S Lord, date of birth 11th October 1913. Parent/Guardian: Christopher. Address:1/1 Lord Street.
Date of Admission:1st July 1920 Infants Dept. Date of leaving:8th July 1921 St Peters.
Would there be a reason why father's surname isn't mentioned, or mothers name isn't listed? Any coincidence that the address is LORD st? Or am I overthinking this!!!!!
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The register 'assumes' that the father/mother surname is the same as the childs. All entries on that page only list a first name under parent/guardian.
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I have a feeling that Eleanor LORD was his mother. Married Mitchell STANSFIELD 1915 Oldham.
He died in the war.
She marries again to Christopher HIGO June Qtr 1920 Oldham.
They seem to be at the Lord St address in 1939. (free search so you'd have to check to make certain.)
Maureen
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Here is Mitchell Stansfield WW1 Casualty rememberance
https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/164111/stansfield,-mitchell/
with an address in a Lord Street Court. Address matches school admissions.
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There's a marriage
June 1920 Oldham 8d 1809
Higo, Christopher
Stansfield, Eleanor
On Lancashire BMD it says that Christopher Higo married Eleanor Lord / Eleanor Stansfield (Oldham Register Office or Registrar Attended)
Are in free index to 1939 Register as Hego?
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Register of Soldiers effects only mentions widow Eleanor and one child. There is a child Lily Stansfield b 1915 mmn Lord.
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Well done MaureenNY and all for cracking info
Service records gives POB
Mitchell Stansfield
Service number 205353, Rank Private
Regiment Lancashire Fusiliers
Battalion 3/5th (T) Battalion.
Birth place Sowerby Bridge, Yorks
Enlistment place Oldham, Lancs
Death 4.9.1917
Cause of death Died of wounds
Death place France & Flanders
Theatre of war Western European Theatre
Supplementary Notes FORMERLY 2233, LANCS HUSSARS YEOMANRY
Cas
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Thanks Maureen and all my fellow rootschatters. You're the best! The name Mitchell has been carried down to one of the grandsons, we never knew the connection. Well done!