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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Kent => Topic started by: howe02 on Sunday 11 March 18 05:31 GMT (UK)
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Found Sarah A How (estimated birth 1836) living with William and Sarah S Brisley (Sarah Sole nee Yates) both aged 33 years. Sarah A How listed as niece and born Sheerness, Kent. Also at same address Frank How 4 (nephew) - I think I have identified him as Frank Charles (son of Martha Sole Yates - Sarah's sister who married Baldwin Walter Howe) but no clue as to identity of Sarah A How - any clues or suggestions? Can't find her in 1841 or 1861, where is birth/baptism record - did she marry or die? .. Alison
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Forgot to give address of 1851 census
Cosington Farm, Aylesford, Kent
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There's this birth maybe..
HOW, SARAH mmn RUFF
GRO Reference: 1846 D Quarter in MEDWAY Volume 05 Page 397
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Deleted -Wrong family
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Frank is still there in 1861 joined by Martha S How, Niece age 10. born in London. Maybe...
HOW, MARTHA mmn COTTINGTON
GRO Reference: 1851 M Quarter in STEPNEY Volume 02 Page 634
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William Brisley m Sarah Sole Yates. Jun 1838 Sheppey 5 453
ADDED.
There are 2 possible marriages for Sarah..
How Sarah. Dec 1871, Tunbridge 2a 1019
HOW Sarah, Mar 1875 Maidstone 2a 786
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Sarah A How was aged 15 years in 1851, so will look at the marriages but not sure how to verify if we don't know parents ........... thanks Alison
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You would expect the How(e) children to be Martha’s offspring, since she is the family member who married a Howe (unless there are other links). She and the younger Martha are with the Brisleys in 1871.
When did she marry Baldwin Howe?
There won’t be a birth registration for Sarah if her age of 15 in 1851 is correct, as she would have been born before civil registration was introduced with effect from 1 July 1837.
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Frank is still there in 1861 joined by Martha S How, Niece age 10. born in London. Maybe...
HOW, MARTHA mmn COTTINGTON
GRO Reference: 1851 M Quarter in STEPNEY Volume 02 Page 634
I think (looking at the 1851) that this Martha was born to Peter How and Ann nee Cottington, who married Dec qtr 1842 Horsham.
However, there is also a Martha Sarah How mmn Patey, birth reg Mar qtr 1851 Stepney 2 558
Update: forget this - she must be Martha Sole Howe mmn Yates, birth reg Mar qtr 1852 Bethnal Green
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I now see that the Baldwin Walter Howe marriage to Mary Yates was Sep qtr 1842 Medway, so postdated Sarah’s birth by quite a distance.
So perhaps she was born to one or other of them before the marriage?
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Baldwin Walter Howe was 18 in 1841 and living with his parents. So unlikely the parent of Sarah A How if the 1851 census age of 15 years is accurate then born approximately 1836 ...... Alison
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Martha Howe nee Yates was 52 in 1871 so born abt 1819 - could have had a premarital child in her teens?
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Now I am confused
Baldwin Walter Howe 1822 - died before 1861
Martha Yates 1819 - 1905
Looking for Sarah A How possible birth year 1836 as she was 15 in 1851 census so don't think Baldwin and Martha are the parents
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An update on Baldwin Walter Howe who we thought had died as Martha indicated in 1861 and 1871 that she was a widow, although have not found a death record
Just recently a DNA link to a Howe in Wolverhampton started detailed and interesting research
Have found Baldwin Walter Howe had abandoned wife and children and started another family in Staffordshire which I have now followed and linked to the DNA person
Although I still have not found death or burial record for Baldwin Walter Howe - his son Frank says that father deceased at time of Frank's 1894 marriage so that narrows the gap to 1865 - 1894
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Although I still have not found death or burial record for Baldwin Walter Howe - his son Frank says that father deceased at time of Frank's 1894 marriage so that narrows the gap to 1865 - 1894
You mention Frank's marriage in 1894, however this report in the Maidstone Telegraph 16 June 1866 states Frank Charles Howe died in 1866.
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That son is from his first marriage
There is another Frank Howe born abt 1865 (no birth record found as yet) who married 1894 and the only name is Frank - most unusual as suspect he has two names, might be ???? Frank Howe, but known as Frank