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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lincolnshire => Topic started by: RobinRedBreast on Sunday 11 March 18 12:16 GMT (UK)
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Hello There,
While looking on the British Newspaper Archive, I came across a death notice for my 4x great granddad, John Hunter (1772-1855). He died on the 20th of April 1855. Here is part of the death notice:
"At Down Hall, Barton-on-Humber, on Friday night last, in the 83rd year of his age, John Hunter, Gent..,":
"www.the britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk: Lincolnshire Chronicle - Friday April 27th 1855"
Does anyone please know where in Barton this was? The only "Down Hall" that I have been able to look up, was in Barrow. But that building was not built until around 1877.
Any information would be gratefully accepted.
Thank you very much.
:) ;)
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I wonder have you found him on the census in 1851?
If he has the same address surrounding properties might help narrow down where it was :)
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It may be Downholme, Cherry Lane, Barton upon Humber
Info from googling;
Downholme is a vernacular farmhouse; it is thought to be the original Down Hall, the principal residence of one of the Manors of Barrow. The current structure appears as a vernacular farmhouse retaining evidence of a succession of improvements and alterations over the centuries.
https://historicengland.org.uk/listing/the-list/list-entry/1420666
Trish :)
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1841/1851 Johns residence is just Saint Chad.
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FreeREG has his Burial 23 Apr 1855 and his abode was St Chad's Barrow. Age 82
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It may be Downholme, Cherry Lane, Barton upon Humber
Info from googling;
Downholme is a vernacular farmhouse; it is thought to be the original Down Hall, the principal residence of one of the Manors of Barrow. The current structure appears as a vernacular farmhouse retaining evidence of a succession of improvements and alterations over the centuries.
https://historicengland.org.uk/listing/the-list/list-entry/1420666
Trish :)
Wow!
Thank you very much for all of this information!
So it was Downholme, Cherry Lane Barton on Humber?
I knew that he and his family lived in St. Chad, Barrow, in the 1841 and 1851 Census returns.
Cheers.
:)
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Right thank you. I understand now, haha!:
The original "Down Hall", was Downholme in Barrow, "a vernacular Farmhouse" So it was not in Barton. That would make sense because my John Hunter had been a farmer.
And then in 1877, J W Beeton built Down Hall (a three storey house called Down Hall), against the east wall of Downholme.
:)
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Here it is:
http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=17&lat=53.6822&lon=-0.3757&layers=6&right=BingHyb
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This is one of John's son's Edward (Wilson) Hunter from "Freecen".
His address has been transcribed as: "Dason Hall, Barrow". I've not been able to look at the original image on FindMyPast but I'm guessing that it was probably "Down Hall". Edward was born 1809 in Barrow:
https://www.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
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Here it is:
http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=17&lat=53.6822&lon=-0.3757&layers=6&right=BingHyb
Thank you. :)
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Yes thats how I see it. Even though the Funeral notice has him dying at Down Hall he may have been just visiting or ill and living with friends/family.
His address on Burial is same as 1851 Census.
I did find a site with a google earth image of Downholme but cant seem to find it now!
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Posts crossed. Will look for Edward now.
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Aha!
And on the next page, at the same place, same household is "Mary Hunter aged 85, a Farmer's Widow". This was Mary Hunter, nee Sanderson, second wife of my John Hunter:
https://www.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Apologies: These links to freecen do not seem to work. She was in the house of Edward Wilson Hunter transcribed on there as: "Dason Hall", in Barrow in the 1861 Census.
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Posts crossed. Will look for Edward now.
Thank you.
:)
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1841 Address is Market St.
1851 address is Thornton Street.
1861 appears to be Down Hall, next door is Mary Hunter, Farmers widow, born 1776 Keelby
1871 nearly everyone on page has address as Down Hall, next address is Cherry Lane
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Looks good ;D
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1841 Address is Market St.
1851 address is Thornton Street.
1861 appears to be Down Hall, next door is Mary Hunter, Farmers widow, born 1776 Keelby
1871 nearly everyone on page has address as Down Hall, next address is Cherry Lane
Thank you very much.
Regarding the 1861 census "Freecen", have Mary Hunter (John Hunter's Widow) at the same address as Edward.
Cheers.
:)
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Mary is in a separate household;
Household schedule 1;
Down Hall
Edward W Hunter 52
Harriett Hunter 55
Margeret E Hunter 20
Annie Hunter 16
Maria Hunter 15
Sarah J Peart 21
Samuel Manby 16
then a line;
Household schedule 2;
Down Hall
Mary Hunter, 85
Household schedule 3;
Down Hall Priory
Elizabeth Brownlow and her children who are governesses/clerk/a teacher + pupils and servants.
(Its a Ladies School)
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Mary is in a separate household;
Household schedule 1;
Down Hall
Edward W Hunter 52
Harriett Hunter 55
Margeret E Hunter 20
Annie Hunter 16
Maria Hunter 15
Sarah J Peart 21
Samuel Manby 16
then a line;
Household schedule 2;
Down Hall
Mary Hunter, 85
Household schedule 3;
Down Hall Priory
Elizabeth Brownlow and her children who are governesses/clerk/a teacher + pupils and servants.
(Its a Ladies School)
Thankyou very much.
So it looks like Mary was in a seperate household.
Cheers.
:) ;)