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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Topic started by: MiniHistory on Sunday 11 March 18 22:48 GMT (UK)
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Is there a Welsh surname which translates as Newhouse?
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Ty newydd is the only one that I can think of at the moment - not a surname though.
Gadget
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Could you give some clues as to why Newhouse would be a surname?
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Welsh surnames are relatively recent.
It was more usual to use a patronymic form with an ap/ab or ferch/merch (son of/daughter of) before the name of the father - i.e.<given name> ap efan/evan, etc. This form continued well into the 18th century and in some areas into the 19th, when the Englsih form of surname was adopted. The remnants of the patronymic form can be seen in Bowen and Pugh, for example, from ap owen and ap hugh/huw.
Gadget
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Hi, Gadget, and thank you. I was attempting to justify why someone with a Welsh first name (Geraint) and an English surname (Newhouse) might have come from New Zealand to Australia in the late 19th century. I thought perhaps they might have anglicised their surname somewhere along the line. I think it's more likely that the first name came from, say, a mother with Welsh ancestry and that the person himself was born in New Zealand.
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I don't think that a Welsh surname, translated, would end up as 'Newhouse'. It might conceivably arise from a Welshman being named as 'John etc Tŷ Newydd', common as a form of Welsh nickname, but seems unlikely to be have been used for official purposes.
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I don't think that a Welsh surname, translated, would end up as 'Newhouse'. It might conceivably arise from a Welshman being named as 'John etc Tŷ Newydd', common as a form of Welsh nickname, but seems unlikely to be have been used for official purposes.
Thank, Pinot. I worked around the problem eventually.
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Another possibiltiy is that the Newhouses moved first to Wales and then they, or a descendant, emigrated having assimilated, possibly even speaking Welsh but certainly using Welsh given names.
This would be quite common, e.g., lots of south-west England agricultural labourers moved to Wales in the 1850s-70s in my own family, and another tree I have created has the Parker family, originally from Somerset, in Neath in the 1700s.
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Another possibiltiy is that the Newhouses moved first to Wales and then they, or a descendant, emigrated having assimilated, possibly even speaking Welsh but certainly using Welsh given names.
More food for thought. Thank you.