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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Stirlingshire => Topic started by: FindinFamily on Monday 12 March 18 00:24 GMT (UK)
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Looking for additional information on Elisabeth Ewing. Elisabeth married Thomas Edmond in 1809 in Balfron. I have confirmation of 2 children Jean in 1810 and Peter in 1813. Looking for additional information about her. When and where was she born? Did she have additional children? Who were her parents? Thanks for any help.
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The record below seems a possibility on Scotland's People
ELIZABETH EWING ANDREW EWING/JANET DUN 03/07/1785 Fintry
Jean & Peter appear to be their only children.
James & Andrew Edmond also had children in Balfron during the same period.
Colin
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Thanks - I have also learned from a death certificate that Elizabeth and Thomas Edmond had a son, Alexander born in 1828 in Fintry. He died in 1893 in Fintry. I believe he may have been a twin (also show Andrew born Jan 1828), but can find no additional info on Andrew
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Thanks - I have also learned from a death certificate that Elizabeth and Thomas Edmond had a son, Alexander born in 1828 in Fintry. He died in 1893 in Fintry. I believe he may have been a twin (also show Andrew born Jan 1828), but can find no additional info on Andrew
The death certificate didn't tell you that he was born in 1828, because Scottish death certificates in 1893 don't have dates of birth on them. The index tells me that Alexander Edmond died in 1893 aged 66. If I subtract 66 from 1893, I get 1827. However without looking at the date of death I can't tell whether he died early in the year, before he had his birthday in 1893, or later, after his 1893 birthday. If he died after his birthday, he would have turned 67, and if I subtract 67 from 1893 I get 1826. So assuming that his age is accurate on his death certificate, he would have been born in either 1826 or 1827.
Where did you find Andrew who you believe was born in 1828?
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There is an index on Ancestry.com for both Andrew Edmond and Alexander Edmond DOB Jan 24, 1828 Associate Session Balfron parents Thomas Edmond and Elisabeth Ewen. Alexander Edmond died on June 1, 1893 in Fintry. Death certificate lists parents as Thomas Edmond and Elisabeth Ewing.
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There is an index on Ancestry.com for both Andrew Edmond and Alexander Edmond DOB Jan 24, 1828 Associate Session Balfron parents Thomas Edmond and Elisabeth Ewen.
That is both interesting and worrying.
Interesting, because it certainly looks very credible.
OTOH it's Ancestry, and you should never trust anything on Ancestry (or any other commercial web site) unless it's an image of an original document.
Worrying, because there is no listing in the index at Scotland's People for these baptisms in the Balfron Associate baptism register.
If correct it means (obviously) that Alexander's age at death is inaccurate. It also begs some other questions, such as where was he in 1841 and 1851? And where did Ancestry get the information from?
BTW what was the name of Alexander's wife?
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Was Alexander Edmond(shoemaker?) married to Catherine Ross ?
Possible 2nd marriage to Helen Spence in 1866 , there is an Alexander Edmond age 15 , apprentice shoemaker , on the 1841 Census(Strathblane Stirlingshire) but not with family.
ev
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Yes - This is him. He was married to Catherine Ross and Helen Spence, and was listed as a shoemaker on his death cert.
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Also Alexander Edmond, 29, shoemaker, born Balfron with wife Catherine, 24, born St Ninians, in Fintry in 1851.
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Ev
Can you share the other people listed on the 1841 census with Alexander Edmond? Also can anyone confirm Andrew Edmond, or is it possible his entry on ancestry is a mistake, or was he possibly twin to Alexander?
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Try https://www.freecen.org.uk/ for 1841/1851 Census transcriptions(Stirlingshire).
ev
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Familysearch has the 1828 baptisms for Alexander and Andrew.
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Baptisms , father Thomas Edmond , mother not named , Associate Session Balfron Stirling.
James Edmond 5th Aug. 1819
Thomas Edmond 5th Aug. 1819
Elisabeth Edmond 3rd Sept. 1820
Scotlandspeople doesn't seem to have these so not sure :-\
ev
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Familysearch has the 1828 baptisms for Alexander and Andrew.
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Baptisms , father Thomas Edmond , mother not named , Associate Session Balfron Stirling.
James Edmond 5th Aug. 1819
Thomas Edmond 5th Aug. 1819
Elisabeth Edmond 3rd Sept. 1820
Scotlandspeople doesn't seem to have these so not sure :-\
SP does have these three, in the 'other churches' database, but not Alexander or Andrew. Very curious.
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This is very strange. I wonder if Alexander and Andrew are the same person (maybe Andrew was a middle name?) listed separately with the same birth date . As James and Thomas both show the same birth date Aug 5, 1819. I have the death cert from Peter Edmond in 1859, son of Thomas and Elisabeth Ewing. (My 3x grt. grandfather) It shows his father as James and mother as Elisabeth Ewing. Now I wonder if his father was Thomas James Edmond and went by James. Not sure how we could ever prove this.
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This is very strange. I wonder if Alexander and Andrew are the same person (maybe Andrew was a middle name?) listed separately with the same birth date.
The same baptism date. Maybe the parents hadn't got round to having the older one baptised, and got them both done at the same time.
As James and Thomas both show the same birth date Aug 5, 1819.
Again, the same baptism date. There's a really easy way to find out what actually happened, which is to take a look at one or other of the baptisms on Scotland's People.
I have the death cert from Peter Edmond in 1859, son of Thomas and Elisabeth Ewing. (My 3x grt. grandfather) It shows his father as James and mother as Elisabeth Ewing. Now I wonder if his father was Thomas James Edmond and went by James. Not sure how we could ever prove this.
It's far more likely that whoever registered the death made a mistake and said James instead of Thomas. That is not unusual, in fact. (I have come across cousins who married, but if you believe their death certificates they were brother and sister! Their grandson obviously got mixed up about which pair of his great-grandparents was which.)