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Research in Other Countries => Canada => Canada Lookup Request => Topic started by: Joed99 on Monday 12 March 18 15:40 GMT (UK)
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Hi
Could anyone please help me expand the following entry from Wiliam Rowbottoms (1873 -1925) diary I am researching as I do not have access to Canadian records.
"11th June 1912 John Waller left Margrove Park for Canada"
The possible biographical info I have found matching possibly WALLER John br 1867 Ruth YKS, Shot Turner at Ironstone Mines, Margrove Park YKS England 1911, wife Elizabeth (ROWBOTTOM) br 1871 Padfield DBY d age 32 June Q 1904
Thank You
John
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As you can access Rootschat, you can access many on line Canadian records at
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/search/Pages/ancestors-search.aspx
MaxD
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Canadian Passenger List - Glasgow Scotland to Quebec - 21 May 1912 on the Grampian.
John Waller aged 45 years - Mary aged 18 years. George aged 17 years. Ethel aged 15 years. John aged 3 years. William aged 1 ? Very faint image. Miner. Going to Strathcone Alta.
Sandra
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John could have remarried - 1916 9313, 65, Ave, Edmonton South Strathcona, Alberta, Canada
John Waller 49 Born England. Imm1912. Miner. Stone Worker.
Annie Waller 33 Born England
John Waller 7 Born England. (suspect this is John Henry Johnson onthe UK 1911)
Annie Waller 3 Born Canada.
Joseph Waller 1 Born Canada.
Sandra
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1921 census 931 1 65 Ave Edmonton Alberta. Sadly it looks like John Waller has passed away. Possibly 1918)
Annie Waller 39 born England. widowed. Imm 1912.
Jack Waller 12 born England 1909.
Annie Waller 8 born England.
Joseph Waller 6 born Alberta.
George Waller 2 born Alberta.
Sandra
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Canadian Passenger List shows -Annie Johnson born 1883 and aged 30 years - and Annie 11 months.
travelling on the Grampian - 25 October 1913 - Liverpool to Quebec - Empress of Britain - going to Strathcona.
Sandra
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FIND A GRAVE
Annie Waller - 1884 - 1972 -
burial -
Mount Pleasant Municipal Cemetery Edmonton, Edmonton Census Division, Alberta, Canada
PLOT D 0300 0002
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/83291410/wal
Sandra
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Annie E. Waller - marriage 1932 Edmonton, Alberta to Lewis Burnard.
Obituary Daily Times Index, 1995-2012 - Annie Elizabeth" (waller) Burnard
FIND A GRAVE
Annie E Burnard - 1912 - 2006
burial - Mount Pleasant Municipal Cemetery
Edmonton, Edmonton Census Division, Alberta, Canada
PLOT J 0032 0021
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/53820564
Lewis F Burnard - 1906 - 1974
Sandra
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As you can access Rootschat, you can access many on line Canadian records at
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/search/Pages/ancestors-search.aspx
MaxD
A really useful site Max, I've used it to trace my ancestors. It's always better to find info oneself.
Gadget
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Canada Voters List 1962 - 75 Avenue Edmonton; Strathcona, Alberta - Mrs Annie Burnard - Louis Burnard (carman) - John H Waller (carman) and Lillian Waller.
Canada Voters List 1968 - 75 Avuenue Edmonton Strathcona Alberta - Mrs Annie Burnard - Mr Lewis Burnard (carman CPR) John H Waller (carman COR) Lillian Waller - There is also a Mrs Minnie George at this address.
John is probably the John Henry Johnson who appears on your 1911 census.
Sandra
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As you can access Rootschat, you can access many on line Canadian records at
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/search/Pages/ancestors-search.aspx
MaxD
A really useful site Max, I've used it to trace my ancestors. It's always better to find info oneself.
Gadget
That is your personal opinion.
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Most people prefer to do their own searches, if they are guided and the info is available free.
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That is not always true - By your intrusion (and spoiling someones thread) you are indirectly telling me not to research on this thread any more ?
Sandra
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That is not always true - By your intrusion (and spoiling someones thread) you are indirectly telling me not to research on this thread any more ?
Sandra
Sandra -I was commenting on a link that Max put up. I am not intruding.
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There must be many other threads where you could have a positive input, rather than making negative comments on ones which you are not positively contributing to.
If this discussion is now complete - i would like to continue if that's ok.
Sandra
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To continue....
This address is near to Annie Burnard.........wonder if he is related in some way. ???
Canada Voters List 1953 - shows a George Waller (mechanic) - 74 Avenue - 9612 - Edmonton Strathcona, Alberta. Plus a Mrs G Waller.
Canada Voters List 1957 - shows a George Waller (aircraft mechanic) with a wife Mrs Hannah Waller. Also a Chris Christensen and Mrs Jane Christiansen under 74 Avenue 9612 - Edmonton.
Canada Voters List 1962 - shows the same people George and Hannah and Chris and Jane as above residing - 76 Street - 8656 Edmonton Alberta.
Canada Voters List 1965 - shows George and Hannah (same address as above) but only Mrs Jane Christensen.
Canada Voters List 1972/74 - 76 Street Edmonton Alberta - George Waller (mechanic) Hannah Waller (Inspector -Quality control) and a female "G" Waller (student)
Sandra
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An Obituary for George Waller - February 1, 1918 – September 29, 2013
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/edmontonjournal/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=167600265
Sandra
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Obituary for Lillian Waller - December 30, 1914 – June 8, 2012 - etc etc..........
Lillian was predeceased by her first husband, Malcolm Stillwell - her second husband,
John (Jack) Waller - her brothers, Arthur and Harold George; her sister, Myrtle Stokke, and her granddaughter, Laurie Yuros.
Sandra
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Suspect this is Hannah Waller (wife of George Waller) - Mar 28, 1922 - Jul 14, 2016 Edmonton Alberta,
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/name/hannah-waller-obituary?pid=180752852&view=guestbook
Sandra
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Canada Voters List 1940 - 65 th Ave Edmonton Alberta - John and Annie Waller - Joseph Waller (mechanic) George Waller (labourer)
Canada Voters List 1945 - 81 st Ave - 9933 Edmonton Alberta - Joseph Waller (army) Doris Waller
Alberta & Canada Marriages show a Joseph Waller married a Kathleen D Jones - 1941 Edmonton Alberta.
Canada Voters List 1958/63 - 76 Ave 9507 Edmonton Alberta - Joseph Waller (CPR) and Doris Waller.
Canada Voters List 1965 - 76 Ave - 9507 Edmonton Alberta - Joe Waller (mechanic) and a male Waller (warehouse man)
Sandra
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Daughter Mary Waller married John Martin in Edmonton Alberta 1913 - (Registration Number 2341)
2 March 1894 - Margrove P Boosbeck, York passed away 27 August 1992 - Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.
husband - John "Jack" Martin - 28 October 1892 - Old Bradwell, Buckinghamshire.
passed away 5 September 1966 - Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.
1921 Stratchona Edmonton Alberta
John Martin 28
Mary Martin 27 Born England. Imm 1912.
William Martin 9
Archibald Martin 7
Dora Martin 5
Kathleen Martin 3
Lily Martin 2
Detailed ancestry tree on this couple.
Sandra
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FIND A GRAVE
Mary Martin - 1894 -1992 and John Martin - 1892 - 1966
burial - Westlawn Memorial Gardens Edmonton, Edmonton Census Division, Alberta.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/93160558
Sandra
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Everyone's input is welcomed... especially for picking tips that help with similar research lines ;)
Regards
Sarah
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Of course it is - everyone likes positive input however small the contribution - :)
Sandra
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Just noticed ancestry tree - John "Jack" Robinson Waller - 1867–1918
born 10 March 1867 - Low Swart, Yorkshire, England - passed away 9 October 1918 - Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. Marriage details were incorrect -
No further details on the death
Sandra
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Alberta, Canada, Marriages Index,1898-1942 - John Waller and Annie Johnson - 1914 - Strathcone Alberta -
Registration Number 3407
Hope this helps you - Joed99
Sandra
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Many many Thanks to all contributors to this thread, and the link to Canadian records.
I will digest the information in due time and add it to the spreadsheet on which I have recorded the diarys entries and additional information derived from its content. Currently there are 351 names and events listed, some are figments of information you would only find from personal contact.
Regards
John
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Hi, I just happened upon this by fluke and it relates directly to me. I have in the somewhat distant past tried to find similar information and a relative, whom I don't know but whose documents I have traced this tree back to the 1600's. I'd be happy to share what I know.
Jack Douglas Waller, Ardrossan, Alberta, Canada
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Notice the obits were not mentioned........
The Edmonton Bulletin Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
11 Oct 1918, Fri Page 2
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/99454778/john-waller-11-october-1918/
Sandra
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Edmonton Journal Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
9 Sep 1972, Sat Page 28
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/99454824/obituary-for-annie-waller-aged-88/
Sandra
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Edmonton Journal Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
5 Jan 1972, Wed Page 62
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/99454853/obituary-for-joseph-waller-aged-57/
Sandra
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Edmonton Journal Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
7 Feb 2006, Tue Page 24
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/99454882/annie-elizabeth-betty-burnard-7/
Sandra
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marriage - George Waller - The Edmonton Bulletin
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada - 31 Aug 1942, Mon Page 11
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/99454961/marriage-of-young-waller/
Edmonton Journal Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
19 Oct 2013, Sat Page 54
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/99454937/obituary-for-george-fehru-waller/
Sandra
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Wow, this adds a bit to what I have known. In the past there was an illegit birth and the fathers name was Robinson but the mother's name Waller was kept - I don't think/didn't know that my grandfather John Waller had a middle name or as a previous link seemed to say it was Robinson, but it could be. Because of the the tree information we named our only son Kerry Robinson Waller. He now resides in London England and has this challenge that he needs proof that his grandfather John Henry Waller was born in England (citizenship) but we don't have a document to show any change of name since he was born to my Grandmother Annie Johnson and he is documented as Johnson (War record shows Waller). We do have the birth certificate showing Johnson and addresses that would suggest all this because it seems Annie worked for John (next door) whose wife had died earlier.
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There is this birth at Guisborough registered in 1912 -
Annie E W Johnson
Registration Date 1912 Oct-Nov-Dec Guisborough, Yorkshire North Riding.
Mother Johnson
Volume 9d Page 927
On a Canadian Passenger List - page no 10 - line 12 and 13 - Liverpool to Quebec - Annie Johnson born 1883 and aged 30 years travelling on the Empress of Britain - arriving 25 October 1913
Also travelling Annie Johnson aged 11 months - going to Stratchcona. (both detained)
Some where within the passenger list - begin or end - there may be the reason why they were detained but I haven't come across that.
Annie Johnson would appear to be Annie E Waller.
Sandra
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Thanks again. Families tended to be concerned about illegitimacy and sometimes that resulted in facts being hidden and I think that has applied in our family (perhaps also with my mother and her first child Shirley). In this case, Annie Johnson was involved with John Waller and had my father John Henry and his sister Annie Elisabeth W Johnson (I assume the W was for Waller) in England. This is my aunty Betty who lived next door to us and was a Burnard. Maybe detained because of birth certificate, common law husband in Strathcona, type issues, since Annie had not yet married John.
The Martin clan that came into the picture had contacted me regarding this very confusion - William, who was on the ship coming out with John (3 years) who is mentioned as the youngest (age 1)below my father, I now know was the illegitimate son of John's oldest daughter Mary and he was William Waller (I don't know the father) and when Mary married Jack Martin they officially or unofficially called him William (Bill) Martin. This of course caused problems with the Martins tree and I was able to clarify that for them.
So thanks again!
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PM sent with other information you were looking for. Hope this helps.
Sandra
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Time flies and I've been so busy with work on the acreage.
After finishing his degrees my son who is a pianist has decided that he wants to live in London and so is applying for a resident visa based on his grandfather John Henry Waller being born in England.
As per this thread and from elsewhere I believe we had sufficient evidence that John Henry Johnson, born with no mention of the father's name became John Henry Waller, travelling with John Waller to Canada. There is, in my opinion plenty of circumstantial evidence for the application but Kerry is worried so I've wondered/tried to find evidence of the name change. Is this impossible??
On a different note regarding this family tree I've been told that preceding the birth of Annie Elizabeth (Waller) Johnson there was another Annie who died at birth or shortly thereafter. Would that likely be recorded??
Jack
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If there was another Annie, would that not have been before they were in Canada ?
Sandra
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Yes since Annie Elizabeth was 11 months when they left for Canada in 1913. Memories fade but I'm quite sure I was told there was this death of an Annie baby.
BTW, thanks for always being so engaged and helpful!
Jack