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Title: Parents of John Coleman born 1803/04 probably Sussex
Post by: Coleman+8 on Thursday 15 March 18 06:25 GMT (UK)
I’ve traced back as far as my relative John Coleman but seem to have hit a road block. He was born 1803/04 and I would think around the Brede area as he married Harriet Stevens in 1826 in Brede and afterwards came to Australia and died in 1887 in Wyndham in NSW.  He had the following children:- George, William, Frances Jane, Harriet, Cecelia, Jane, William Henry, James, John Joseph. Any help on his parents and their offspring or any info at all would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Parents of John Coleman born 1803/04 probably Sussex
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 15 March 18 07:37 GMT (UK)
Welcome to rootschat

Born 3rd April 1801 of the parish of Brede - John Coleman son of William & Hannah  (Non Conformist register)
Registered 4 July 1802

Great Meeting-Presbyterian or Unitarian,Battle,Sussex
Title: Re: Parents of John Coleman born 1803/04 probably Sussex
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 15 March 18 07:43 GMT (UK)
There is a burial for a John Coleman 17 Apr 1803 at St.George, Brede - no age given on transcript
Title: Re: Parents of John Coleman born 1803/04 probably Sussex
Post by: Coleman+8 on Thursday 15 March 18 09:03 GMT (UK)
Thanks rosie99
Another record has him born at Udimore so that would be in the Brede parish but the date doesn’t quite add up. I’ll follow them and see where it takes me.
Title: Re: Parents of John Coleman born 1803/04 probably Sussex
Post by: omega 1 on Thursday 15 March 18 10:58 GMT (UK)
Welcome to RootsChat

Found this info


Baptised at St Mary ,Udimore
3 June 1804

John  son of Samuel & Mary

omega
Title: Re: Parents of John Coleman born 1803/04 probably Sussex
Post by: Coleman+8 on Thursday 15 March 18 11:32 GMT (UK)
Wow, thanks omega 1 . Hadn’t seen these two in my searches. Certainly fits the time frame. Wonderful news.
Title: Re: Parents of John Coleman born 1803/04 probably Sussex
Post by: trish1120 on Thursday 15 March 18 14:15 GMT (UK)
I did notice this;

NSW Bounty Immigrants;
Head; WILLIAM Coleman age 26, occp Farm Servant, Native Place Oddimore, Sussex,
Father SAMUEL- Oddimore, Sussex, occp Bailiff
Wife; ROSA Coleman, Native Place Sandhurst, Kent, Mother Rosa MARLOW
Arrived 2 Oct 1838 on the "Coromandel"

1841 Census
Pound House,
Udimore, Sussex
Samuel COLMAN, 67, Ag Lab
Mary, 63
Harriett, 22
Mary, 6

Anc has him as Samule Elman c 1774

1851 Samuel Coleman is a Widower, Ag Lab, born c 1776 Hastings, Sussex
Title: Re: Parents of John Coleman born 1803/04 probably Sussex
Post by: trish1120 on Thursday 15 March 18 14:33 GMT (UK)
BENJAMIN Coleman age 27 and Wife Mary, nee Carey were on the same Ship.
His Parents Samuel/Mary.
From a Tree it appears Benjamin/Mary then went to NZ where he died 1849

Also a SAMUEL Coleman and Wife/children were on the same Ship.
He died on the voyage of Typhus Fever 18th July
Wife ANNA was nee Watson and her Father was William of Oddimore, Sussex

Images of these entries are on Familysearch.Org
Title: Re: Parents of John Coleman born 1803/04 probably Sussex
Post by: Coleman+8 on Thursday 15 March 18 21:27 GMT (UK)
Thank you Trish1120 fabulous help. That was definitely them as there is mention of the Coromandel and the birth of one of his sisters onboard. How exciting.
Title: Re: Parents of John Coleman born 1803/04 probably Sussex
Post by: Coleman+8 on Thursday 15 March 18 21:32 GMT (UK)
However, what has happened to John in all this? Seems the Coleman clan uprooted and set out on the Coromandel. I’ll have to try and see the shipping lists. I saw one of the Coromandel to South Australia but they weren’t on that list. My records say that there was a Mary born onboard.
Title: Re: Parents of John Coleman born 1803/04 probably Sussex
Post by: trish1120 on Friday 16 March 18 05:41 GMT (UK)
If you have access to Anc. there is a good Tree on there for the Family.

Sorry I have posted all I could find with free sites on the net.

Trish :)
Title: Re: Parents of John Coleman born 1803/04 probably Sussex
Post by: Coleman+8 on Friday 16 March 18 05:56 GMT (UK)
Thanks Trish. Will resort to the paid sites if I have to. Doing ok at the moment. Thanks for the help.
Title: Re: Parents of John Coleman born 1803/04 probably Sussex
Post by: mareeab on Monday 08 August 22 02:17 BST (UK)
Hi. I have done some work on Coleman re the deceased brother Samuel on the Coromandel in 1838. It seems John arrived with family on Augusta Jessie in Oct 1837. No decent shipping record has survived that states parent names. I have sighted the 1887 death cert for John. It has one major issue...the informant son John has named his parents, John and Harriet as the parents of John Coleman snr. Makes it difficult to determine if the 1887 deceased John is the John Coleman whose parents were Samuel and Mary and is who I am looking for. I think he is but with such bad info on death cert makes it impossible to prove.