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I am able to research records held at the Lancashire Records Office in Preston. Please provide as much information as possible to assist in my quest to help you.
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I am able to research records held at the Lancashire Records Office in Preston. Please provide as much information as possible to assist in my quest to help you.
Many thanks for your offer. Could you please check to see if there is any more info on this Marriage:
Name: Margaret Nisbet
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 6 Feb 1860
Marriage Place: Saint John,Preston,Lancashire,England
Spouse: Thomas Wilson.
I am particularly interested in their Father's names and Occupations, and the names of any Witnesses.
Also, the Baptismal details for their child:
Name: William James Wilson
Registration Year: 1860
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Preston
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8e
Page: 481.
I'm interested in Thomas Wilson's Occupation on the Baptismal Entry.
Romilly.
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The marriage is freely available on FamilySearch (need to be logged in)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GTX5-9881?i=537&cat=122477
His father late William Wilson, Merchants Clerk
Her father late James Nisbet, Laborer
One of the witnesses was Jane Nisbet (marked), the other one was Charles H....y
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Baptism of William James, 4 Sep 1860, Preston
Father Thomas Wilson, Soldier (as per marriage record)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9Q97-YS5C-T3Z?i=734&cat=122477
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Many thanks jonw, - I was looking on FindMyPast and Ancestry, neither of which have that image!
There is just a (slim) chance that the William James Wilson, Born Preston 1860, might be my elusive Grandfather of the same name, who I have never been able to find before his Marriage in Swansea in 1893.
Interesting that Thomas Wilson is a Soldier in 1860, although he was discharged from the 66th Regt of Foot for absence without leave in 1856. But I suppose that he could have joined up again?
Romilly.
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Hi
Let's hope so! I remember him I think - he was an inventor as well?
Good luck
John
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Hi
Let's hope so! I remember him I think - he was an inventor as well?
Good luck
John
Yes, - right chap! I still can't find him anywhere before 1893:-(
I give up every so often... but am just having another go at digging over the bones...
Romilly ::)
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Hi Jonw65, firstly apologies if I'm being a bit thick! When I use Family Search I can find the details of records but it states no image available; if I use your link I can view the PR entry??
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Hi DiLambo,
As Jon says, you need to be 'Logged in' on Family Search to view the images. It's a free Site, but you have to create an account on there. I've done that now, and it is an interesting Site.
Apologies for requesting Look-ups for info that was on there, - but I didn't realise it was!
The man that I'm looking for is my late Grandfather, William James Wilson (1860 - 1937) who says on the 1901 and 1911 Censuses that he was Born in 'Manchester, Lancs'. I've been unable to find him there, and so have widened the search to the rest of Lancashire. Until the 1911 Census became available, I thought he was the W.J. Wilson Born in Kirkby Ireleth, Lancs, but that one is still at home and single on that Census.
Apologies, Romilly.
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That's no problem Romilly, I'm planning on going next week as I'm only 20 mins away! I am logged in but cannot see any images unless I follow Jon's link :(
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Hi
You find Preston, Lancashire, in the catalogue on FamilySearch
https://www.familysearch.org/catalog/search
Select Church records
Scroll down to Parish registers for St. John's Church, Preston, 1642-1948
Clicking on that reveals
https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/122477?availability=Family%20History%20Library
The films with a camera icon, but with no key on top, are available to view at home. The ones with a key can be seen only at a Family History Centre. There may be more than one filming of the same records. Not all films have been digitized.
Then it's find what you want on the film yourself!
John
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That's fabulous John thanks for your help :)
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Hi Di
May I take you up on your kind offer of research at Lancashire Record Office please?
LRO (at Preston) hold a great deal of material relating to the Stanley family, Earls of Derby, who owned land in Cheshire (as well as many other places).
I am interested in records from Macclesfield and Macclesfield Forest in Cheshire.
There are 2 documents I should like to see (well, lots! but these 2 are favourite at the moment :)).
These are the reference numbers:
DDK/458/26 - 1676 “Four Indentures of Attornment for their several Estates in the Forest of Macclesfield.”. Edward Taylor.
DDK/458/28 - 1676 “Three Indentures of Release of their several Estates and interests in several tenements in Macclesfield Forest.” Edward Bostock.
My guess is there is a box number ‘458’, and ‘26’ and ‘28’ are the numbers of the documents inside it.
I know you can take photographs of documents at Preston. Is this something you would be able to do? and then send them to me via email? I would be happy to pay the photography fee for the day. - I have searched their site, but can’t find how much they charge - other ROs charge about £5.
Let me know if you think this would be feasible.
Many thanks for the offer.
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Hi Goldie
Yes I can certainly take a look and see if I can get hold of them. I will be going next week and will research these boxes if possible. I'm not sure what the fee is for photography but will let you know
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Thanks very much Di. :)
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Many thanks Di for your work at Preston RO - it was well worth it. :)
BY the way, a daily photography permit there is 10 pounds, if any is planning a trip.
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Hi DiLambo,
Does the offer of looking up records at the LRO still stand?
If so, there is a document there I would be interested in. It is the Will of James Sanders from 13 May 1851. He was a yeoman from Torver and I believe the reference number is W/RW/F/R398A/3. I’m particularly interested in what names are mentioned (if any) as I’ve been struggling to find anything relating to where James might be from.
If you are able to look this up that would be great, but no problems if not :)
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Yes I can certainly have a look. Do you just require a transcript of it?
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Thank you in advance DiLambo, that would be much appreciated. Hopefully it’ll help me get a bit further with this branch of my family tree!
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Hi there, good news - I have been to Lancashire RO today and found some names for you. I have started to transcribe the will but ran out of time, however most of it is there and definitely his family are named.
If you PM me and send your email address I will email the document containing the names. If you would like the rest I will finish it next time I go; ran out of time today sorry.
The Will is dated 8 Feb 1849 and it would appear James died 27 Dec 1850. The will was proved 13 May 1851
Regards
Di
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Hi Di,
I’ve PM’d you. Looking forward to seeing what you’ve found!
Thank you :)
Northern Gen
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Many thanks for your kind offer. If possible could you give me information on the following person:-
Alexander Ross b 28 Jul 1883, Dallas, Morayshire, Scotland.
died 11 Jan 1945, Castleton, Rochdale, Lancashire, England.
Married to Catherine Caskie, 12 Jul 1918, Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland.
I`m not sure what info is given on English death certs. If you can provide place & cause of death etc that would be great.
Many thanks, Graham.
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Many thanks for your kind offer. If possible could you give me information on the following person:-
Alexander Ross b 28 Jul 1883, Dallas, Morayshire, Scotland.
died 11 Jan 1945, Castleton, Rochdale, Lancashire, England.
Married to Catherine Caskie, 12 Jul 1918, Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland.
I`m not sure what info is given on English death certs. If you can provide place & cause of death etc that would be great.
Many thanks, Graham.
You will need to purchase the death certificate to get the place and cause of death, the information is not available anywhere else.
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Thanks for the reply. In Scotland you can visit the local Register Office & do a Family Search in which you can view the details of death etc. I thought it might be the same system in England. Obviously not. Many thanks, Graham.
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Yes, sorry Graham you will need the death certificate. If there is anything further from Lancashire I will be happy to take a look for you. Di
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Hi - I am trying to find out what happened to Robert C Alsop, born in Liverpool on 28 December 1943. His sister last saw him when he joined the army in around 1959. His father was Robert Alsop, (who changed his name to Paul Ducroq & went off to Australia) and his mother was Edna May Worrall. They were married in Q1 of 1943, we think, possibly in Worcestershire. So far the only thing I have managed to unearth about Robert C Alsop is the registration of his birth, (Liverpool South, Q1, 1943), but he appears to disappear after joining the army. We are assuming he has passed away, although can find nothing to prove or disprove that. Any help would be great.
Hi Lesley, I will try and find some info for you but am away fro the next couple of weeks but will be back in touch. Di
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Hi - I am trying to find out what happened to Robert C Alsop, born in Liverpool on 28 December 1943. His sister last saw him when he joined the army in around 1959. His father was Robert Alsop, (who changed his name to Paul Ducroq & went off to Australia) and his mother was Edna May Worrall. They were married in Q1 of 1943, we think, possibly in Worcestershire. So far the only thing I have managed to unearth about Robert C Alsop is the registration of his birth, (Liverpool South, Q1, 1943), but he appears to disappear after joining the army. We are assuming he has passed away, although can find nothing to prove or disprove that. Any help would be great.
As this is more of a general enquiry for any information about Robert Alsop and what happened to him, rather than a specific look up for, say, a marriage or a death on a particular date, it might be worth re-posting your enquiry on 'The Common Room' board here on Rootschat. That way, many more people will see it rather than those just looking on the Lancashire board, and there may be somebody who knows, or can find out, something.
Just an idea.
Good luck!
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hi all don't know if this would include records for Salford, I recently found one of my great grandfathers sisters burial record in Scotland. Elizabeth Russell ms Campbell, 37 Holland Street Salford aged 71. She was interred 11 October 1962 in Cambusnethan Lanarkshire Scotland, with her husband who died In 1950. There son who signed for the husbands death cert in Scotland then its either G Russell or J Russell living at 69 Church Street Ashton under lyns. I'm thinking the mother may have moved down from Scotland along with the son after her husbands death. any help would be much appreciated.
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Good morning, are you still able to carry out lookups at the moment? There is an address in the ERs that I would like to have checked out. The Records Office has given me the Ref. No's.
I'll let you have the details if you're happy to do this.
Thanks,
Judith
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Hi there
Hope you can help
I am looking for a marriage record , 1947 bolton
John WILDING and Edith A WHALLEY ( b.24/3/15) . I am trying to obtain Johns details , DOB , place of living
many thanks
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I am looking for a marriage record , 1947 bolton
John WILDING and Edith A WHALLEY ( b.24/3/15) . I am trying to obtain Johns details , DOB , place of living
You can see an image of the register at FamilySearch - image 314 in this set:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJN-F7FK?i=313&cat=955339
I found that by first searching at Lancashire Online Parish Clerks, which as well as details of what's at FamilySearch gives a full transcription (except that they have the date wrong):
https://www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexp.html
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many thanks for this
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Happy to help. When I need to wander into Lancashire, the OPC site is often my first port of call - it's one of the best. These free sites can save you a lot of time and money.
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Thank you for your offer. I have been trying to find a birth for a child born to Mary M S Robertson & Alexander Robertson. They lived in Salford. I have a baptism for the child it states her name was Mary & her dob was June 1904. Some of the information of her siblings baptisms were incorrectly written down. I was told by Salford Registry office that there was no child born to that couple from 1900 to 1905 in Salford. I definately have the correct child on the baptism and the addresses were all in Salford. She doesnt appear on 1911 census but I can't find a death for her? Many Thanks
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Thank you for your offer. I have been trying to find a birth for a child born to Mary M S Robertson & Alexander Robertson. They lived in Salford. I have a baptism for the child it states her name was Mary & her dob was June 1904. Some of the information of her siblings baptisms were incorrectly written down. I was told by Salford Registry office that there was no child born to that couple from 1900 to 1905 in Salford. I definately have the correct child on the baptism and the addresses were all in Salford. She doesnt appear on 1911 census but I can't find a death for her? Many Thanks
The original poster has not been on here for a long time, you may be better asking the mods if they can move this to the boards where we can all try and help.
Have you considered this birth registration which would tie in with a 24th June 1904 birth
ROBERTSON, ALEXANDRA mmn HADDOW
GRO Reference: 1904 September Quarter in SALFORD
Volume 08D Page 103
Her death
Death Dec qtr 1908
ROBERTSON Alexandra age 4 Salford 8d 33
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Is this your family in 1911?
Margaret Mary Storrie Robertson and children?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW13-9W3
There is a Frank Sherwin Robertson b 1901, Salford with mmn Haddow
Matilda Haddow Robertson b 1899 mmn Haddow
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Matilda appears in 1901 with her parents and Jeannie age 5 born Scotland who was baptised at Salford (Jane)
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Your find seems to be the right child Rosie :)
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It certainly looks likely, I have not checked to see if the number of children still alive in 1911 ties in
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Thank you all for your help. I did see Alexandra born 1904 & died 1908 & am thinking this could be the missing Mary? She was baptised Mary but my Grt Grandmother had a very strong Glasgow accent so maybe the minister couldn't understand what she said as some of the other baptisms are wrong. Jeanie is down as Jane & some of the dates are wrong. On 1911 census it states she had 6 children 4 still living & 2 died. Matilda (my Grandmother) Frank & Jeanie are on the census. She did have James born in 1903 but he doesnt appear on the 1911 census with them & I havent found a death for him so am thinking he was the 4th child still living. I have found another child born in Glasgow in 1897 & who died in 1897 named Alexander mothers maiden name Haddow. The family came to Salford in 1898 .
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She may well have been baptised Alexandra and Mary was just a clerical error by whoever completed the register. I would doubt that her birth was registered as Alexandra then they baptised her as Mary and notified her death as Alexandra.
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Where does it state the mothers maiden name please? I think the child Alexandra is the one I'm looking for. She may have been called Alexandra Mary? On the baptisms none of the other childrens middle names are noted. There seems to be a lot of errors on lots of documents. On 1911 census family search it states Mary M S Robertson was a widow but I have a copy of the original document & she is down as married 16yrs. We know her husband deserted her between 1905 & 1910.
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The GRO website has this
ROBERTSON, ALEXANDRA (Mothers maiden surname) HADDOW
GRO Reference: 1904 S Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 103
Her death on freebmd
Death Dec 1908
ROBERTSON Alexandra 4
Salford 8d 33
(ADDED The GRO has it indexed as Alexander but found when selecting female. This entry is taken from a different copy to that used by freebmd. Looking at the image on freebmd it does state Alexandra )
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Thank you so much for your help. I have found lots out this week to show my 98yr old Mum tomorrow. She's very interested in her Grt Grandmother & family
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Make sure you have pen and paper handy when you see her as who knows what useful bits of information she may recall ;D
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I don't know if anyone does this sort of look-up anymore but if anyone does I'm helping a cousin with their Irish ancestors and it would be useful to know the name of the father of Patrick Cox who married Ellen Grogan at St Marie RC (Our Lady's) Lydiate in the Apr/May/Jun quarter of 1887. On Genuki the reference for the film is as follows: "1856-1941 held by Lancashire Record Office MF 9/125 - Microfilm". The parents of the bride were in England so we know about them (they were from Knock). The father of the groom's name may help me to find out where in County Mayo, Ireland this Cox family came from. Thanks for any help given.
C
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Do the Lancashire Records extend to the records for England and Wales Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial Registers (1567-1936) or are they just COE? I have someone that I'm looking up ancestors for and they are Presbyterians. I've looked in the register I did locate and found James Birch (bapt. 11 Aug 1720) to Joseph Birch of Gorton Lane, Manchester. I've looked through every entry and the majority are Baptisms and only a handful of deaths. The rest are recipes for aches and pains, Asthma and other ailments and liquor. I'm looking for marriage and death records that were not included in the register. I'm trying to figure out who else is in Joseph and James Birch's family. Thank you for any suggestions!